Yet another ardent fan of PS..
  • Hai and Hallo
    I am new this to ...
    welll...

    Naan indha koottathil pudhidhaaga inaidhullaen..
    Shankar...
    Naan romba chinna paiyyan...
    kallooriyil kattidakalai payilugindraen.. moondravathu
    varudam...
    Intha puththagathai mudhal muraiyaaga moondru
    aandugalukku munbu padithean...
    Adharkkul yethanai murai padithuviitaen ... kanakkey
    illai...

    Avvalavaaga enakku sarithra kal vettukkal pattri
    theriyaathu...
    ungal paechukkalai gavaniththu varuvean.
    ennal mudinthaal en karuthukkalai pagirndhu kolvaen.

    Mudhal min-kadidhathileyey en mudhal kelviyai
    keatkiraen...

    Periya pazhuveyttaraiyarin unmai peyar enna ???
    (chinnavar peyar kaalanthagar endru ninaikiraen...
    Orey oru idathail thalaivar ezhudhi iruppaar)


    nandri
    vanakkangaludan

    shankar
  • vanakkam sankar ,

    welcome.have a great time here.

    amam muthal maillaye kelvi kekkarengale...ithu nyamama?
  • Andha kelvikku vidai theriyaamal moonu varushamaa en
    mandai udanjittu irukku....

    adhaan ...

    yaaravadhu yeppadiyaavadhu sollidunga....

    shankar
  • Dear shanker

    welcome

    and your query had most of us stumped .

    but it was great to realise how new people add a diferent facet and a
    fresh way of looking at things.
    for when I searched for a mention of p.pv's actual name I stumbled upon
    sambuvarayar's name- sengannar.
    welcome again.
    venketesh




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  • Dear Sankar
    Welcome..
    If I am right Kandan Amuthanar
  • >
    > Periya pazhuveyttaraiyarin unmai peyar enna ???
    > (chinnavar peyar kaalanthagar endru ninaikiraen...
    > Orey oru idathail thalaivar ezhudhi iruppaar)

    Historic pazhuvettaraiyars are being dealt with in great detail in the
    PAZHUVOOR series by Dr.Kalaikkovan in our sister website
    www.varalaaru.com - it will be a delight for you shankar !

    By the way Kumaran kandan and Kandan maravan is the ans to your
    question - if I remember correct. No kalanthaka I believe :-)
  • -more than once in ps

    periya pv talks to chinna pv and calls him thambi kaalaanthaka.

    venketesh
  • > periya pv talks to chinna pv and calls him thambi kaalaanthaka.

    There was literally no research done on Pazhuvettaraiyar clan in
    Kalki's time. He just managed with what was available.

    Pazhuvoor pudhaiyalgal has the distinction of being the first indepth
    research on this clan and it won the tamilnadu govt prize for the same.
    Here the pazhuvettaraiyar clan and family tree is drawn to possible
    approximation

    Obviously kalaantaka is kalki's imagination
  • Dear Gokul

    I am sure nobody would have bothered about sitrasar clans like the
    pazhuvettaraiyar and the sambuvarayar and the kodumbalur clan except
    for kalki's imagination which gave them a new lease of life.
    something must have triggered off his choice of name.


    a temple near manal medu where he studied has an amman called
    poongkuzhali.
    there is an inscription of a person called kandar suriyan sambuvarayan
    in the raja gopuram of thiruvakkarai.
    perhaps it gave kalki the name of kanda maaran.
  • > there is an inscription of a person called kandar suriyan
    sambuvarayan

    Excellent and rare piece of info on poonguzhali and kandamaran !

    Sambuvaraiyars did not (may not) have lived during the times of rajaraja
  • Dear Gokul,
    perhaps sambuvarayars did not live during the times of cholas
    but if they had, they have certainly outlived them.
    I was reading about two foreign forts in the coramandel coast.
    sadras( once could have been a twin city of madras) near present day
    kalpakkam

    and al ambhra - an arab turned french fort near kadapakkam on ecr.
    both these forts have witnessed great naval battles in 18th
    century ,which determined why we speak english in chennai( and india)
    and not french.but the common thread is both these have been
    sambuvarayar ports in the past.

    talking about survival , so have the mutharayars whom the cholas drove
    out of tanjore.they have emerged as a caste.
    but where are the cholas?? i ask myself.
  • Hai Gokul,

    there is a paadal petra sthalam called thiru vaal koli puthur
    between mayavaram and manalmedu.( a temple with a legend of arjuna's
    sword).very close to kalkis child hood residence

    sambandar and sundarar have sung about this place


    the amman's name is
    bramhakunthalaambaal in sanskrit and
    vandamar poongkuzhali in tamil.

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