kalvettu, meikeerthi, copper plates
  • super activity group la regarding kalvettu, meikeerthi, and copper
    plates....

    ennoda thaazhmaiyaana karuthai sollikolla virumbhughiren....

    namma kitta irukkaradhu dhammaa thoondu piece of information...
    adhai interpret panni solradhula variations wud be ekkachakkam.....
    for instance there are various Principles regarding interpreation of
    constituion.. they are

    1. Textual. Decision based on the actual words of the written law,
    if the meaning of the words is unambiguous. Since a law is a
    command, then it must mean what it meant to the lawgiver, and if the
    meaning of the words used in it have changed since it was issued,
    then textual analysis must be of the words as understood by the
    lawgiver, which for a constitution would be the understanding of the
    ratifying convention or, if that is unclear, of the drafters. Some
    the law there is not any departure. 5 Coke 118. Noscitur à sociis.
    Meaning of words may be ascertained by associated words. 3 T.R. 87.


    2. Historical. Decision based less on the actual words than on the
    understanding revealed by analysis of the history of the drafting
    and ratification of the law, for constitutions and statutes,
    sometimes called its legislative history, and for judicial edicts,
    the case history. A textual analysis for words whose meanings have
    changed therefore overlaps historical analysis. It arises out of
    such Latin maxims as Animus hominis est anima scripti. Intention is
    the soul of an instrument. 3 Bulst. 67.


    3. Functional. Also called structural. Decision based on analysis
    of the structures the law constituted and how they are apparently
    intended to function as a coherent, harmonious system. A Latin maxim
    is Nemo aliquam partem recte intelligere potest antequam totum
    perlegit. No one can properly understand a part until he has read
    the whole. 3 Coke Rep. 59.


    4. Doctrinal. Decision based on prevailing practices or opinions of
    legal professionals, mainly legislative, executive, or judicial
    precedents, according to the meta-doctrine of stare decisis, which
    treats the principles according to which court decisions have been
    made as not merely advisory but as normative. Some Latin maxims are:
    Argumentum à simili valet in lege. An argument from a like case
    avails in law. Coke, Littleton, 191. Consuetudo et communis
    assuetudo ... interpretatur legem scriptam, si lex sit generalis.
    Custom and common usage ... interpret the written law, if it be
    general. Jenk. Cent. 273. Cursus curiæ est lex curiæ. The practice
    of the court is the law of the court. 3 Buls. 53. Judiciis
    posterioribus fides est adhibenda. Credit is to be given to the
    latest decisions. 13 Coke 14. Res judicata pro veritate accipitur. A
    thing adjudicated is received as true. Coke, Littleton, 103.


    5. Prudential. Decision based on factors external to the law or
    interests of the parties in the case, such as the convenience of
    overburdened officials, efficiency of governmental operations,
    avoidance of stimulating more cases, or response to political
    pressure. One such consideration, avoidance of disturbing a stable
    body of practices, is also the main motivation for the doctrinal
    method. It also includes such considerations as whether a case
    is "ripe" for decision, or whether lesser or administrative remedies
    have first been exhausted. A Latin maxim is Boni judicis est lites
    dirimere. The duty of a good judge is to prevent litigation. 4 Coke
    15.


    6. Equitable. Also called ethical. Decision based on an innate
    sense of justice, balancing the interests of the parties, and what
    is right and wrong, regardless of what the written law might
    provide. Often resorted to in cases in which the facts were not
    adequately anticipated or provided for by the lawgivers. Some
    scholars put various balancing tests of interests and values in the
    prudential category, but it works better to distinguish between
    prudential as balancing the interests and values of the legal system
    from equitable as balancing the interests and values of the parties.
    It arises out of the Latin maxim, Æquitas est perfecta quædam ratio
    quæ jus scriptum interpretatur et emendat; nulla scriptura
    comprehensa, sed sola ratione consistens. Equity is a sort of
    perfect reason which interprets and amends written law; comprehended
    in no code, but consistent with reason alone. Coke, Littleton, 24.


    7. Natural. Decision based on what is required or advised by the
    laws of nature, or perhaps of human nature, and on what is
    physically or economically possible or practical, or on what is
    actually likely to occur. This has its origin in such ancient Latin
    maxims as: Jura naturæ sunt immutabilia. The laws of nature are
    unchangeable. Jacob. 63. Impossibilium nulla obligatio est. There is
    no obligation to do impossible things. D. 50, 17, 185. Lex non cogit
    ad impossibilia. The law does not compel the impossible. Hob. 96.
    Lex neminem cogit ad vana seu inutilia peragenda. The law requires
    no one to do vain or useless things. 5 Coke 21. Legibus sumptis
    desinentibus, lege naturæ utendum est. Laws of the state failing, we
    must act by the law of nature. 2 Rol. Rep. 98.

    source : http://www.constitution.org/cons/prin_cons.htm




    Kitta thatta nummaloda kalvettu inscriptions, copper plates
    inscription ellaame have to be interpreted with the above premise.
    adhu dhaan thaazhmaiyaana opinion.


    Unnoda karuthai nee sollu.. ennoda karuthai naan solren....
    adhukkaagha..MURANAANA KARUTHU KONDAVAN MADAIYAN .. nnu solradhu
    endha vidhathula nyayam...???

    one can understand certain things.. the other person may understand
    the other things... yaaru eppadi purinjukkaraa ngradhai poruthu
    dhaan kannottame amaiyum....


    janangale purinjukkonga.... "KATRADHU KAIMANN ALAVU.. KALLAADHADHU
    ULAGALAVU.."....

    yaaru kittayum conclusive proof illaadhavaraikkum aduthavan solradhu
    thappu.. nadandhirukkave mudiyaadhu nnu nianikkaradhai niruthunga...


    Satish: Well done and Well said....
  • Krupa,

    nethikkum mundhaanethum nee sambandhaa sambandham illaama
    olarinadhai paathu enakkum appadi ularanumnnu aasai vanduduchchu...
    thappaaa????
  • naan sonnadhu ungalukku puriyaadhadhaala ularalngareenga saar. aanaa
    neenga sonnadhu ungalukkey puriyaama olaral-nu neengaley
    oththukkareenga. thanks.

    krupa
  • mannichidu krupa.. mannichudu...

    unnoda perunthanmaiya purinjukkaama pesitten....

    ullaradhula unnai minja mudiyumnnu thappu kanakku pottu olaritten...
    aana unnai minja mudiyaadhunnu nee enakku unarthitta...

    irundhaalum .... nee kudutha andha compliment kku romba nanri ...

    makkale.. gavanichikkonga...krupa voda perunthanmaiya
    purinjukkonga....

    thannudaya simhasanathai uthamanukku kudutha arunmozhiya vida krupaa
    dhaan uyarndhavar...
  • Illappaa illa. needhaan ennai mannikkanum. en alavulayaavadhu thelivaa
    iruppane naan. aanaa than alavileye ularikkottara thiramai ellaam
    enakku innum kaivaravillai.

    Umadhu thiramai yaarukku varum. Cut panni vittu copy panni piragu
    paste pannum samayojidham udayavar allavaa thaangal!

    ungal perumaigalai kalvettil vadiththu vaikkalaam. aanaal ungalukko
    kalvettugalil nambikkai illai. oru website develop panni paysite-aaga
    aakkivida vazhi seigirane. ungalukkum cut, copy, paste technique
    sollithara vasadhiyaaga irukkum.

    Krupa
  • kalvettil padhippadhu enakku aatchebagaramaana vishayam illai.....

    aanal adhil ennudaya gurunathar aaghiya thangal peyar dhaan mudhalil
    padhikkappada vendum....

    vendumendraal neengal enakku ubadesam seiyyum padamum varaindhu
    keezhe namadhu peyarayum ezhudhi vaikka vendum...

    pirkkaalathil yaaraavadhu vandhu thangalai pol ularikkonde irukka
    naam vaaippalikkakoodaadhu.....
  • ayyaa, saami. umadhu ularalgalukku alavey illayaa? thangal madalil oru
    vaakkiyathirkkum adutha vaakkiyathirkkum thodarbey illaye?

    Kalvettu-la ellaam yaarum padam varaya maattaanga. :P

    padam varaindhu vittaal pirkaalathil yaarum ulara maattaargal (adhuvum
    ennai pol) endra ungal thaththuvam potrudhalukku uriyadhu.

    Krupa
  • Kamal,

    excellent .. that is what i too am driving at...

    anumaanangal ennikkume facts aagaadhu.. but we are talking about
    conclusive evidence....

    circumstantial evidence will lead us to a certain extent.. but are
    not foolproof to come to a conclusion..

    naama anumaanangalaa pesindirukkaradhu are circumstantial
    evidence... ippadi nandhirukka vaaipugal irukku nnu solradhu dhaan
    circumstantial evidence..

    our entire arguments are based upon circumstantial evidence only ....

    so what we can say is that, there is a greater possibility of one
    act being committed over the other....

    but pls remember we are talkig about possibilities and not the
    exact happennings...

    hence the other possibility cannot be ruled out.. so Pls be assured
    that unless there is direct proof or evidence there can never be a
    conclusion...

    All we can say is that "this might have happenned"..so there is a
    lot of scope for discussions and ambiguity unless it is an act or
    occurence is proved without doubt.


    I really appreciate that history should stand on unmaiyaana
    tharavugal.. there is no second thoughts.. but what is unmaiyaana
    tharavugal has to be established .....

    Regarding a published material becoming a fact, i beg to differ..
    Mein kampf too was published ... it is afact that the book had been
    published.. but the contents of the book may not be facts.... so
    always a scope for rework.

    supreme court judgement ae is amenable to review ... appadi
    irukkumbodhu anumaanangalum , circumstantial evidence ayum
    adippadiyaaga konda derivatives mattum review panna mudiyaadhaaa????


    appappa.... ippave kannai kattuthey....
  • krupa...

    thodarbiruppadhu enakku nanraaga purighiradhu.... aanal adhu umakku
    dhaan puriyavillai....

    thaangal paartha kalvettugalil padangal illai enru mattum
    koorungal.. kalvetukkalil padame irukkaadhu endru kooruvadhu edhan
    adippadaiyil????appadi edhaavadhu adippadai irundhaal dhayakoorndhu
    sollavum.....

    thaangal paarkkaadha kalvettukkal ethanaiyo irukkinrana ennum siru
    unmai kooda thangalukku theriyaadha??

    thangalukku theriyaadha onrai .. "illave illai" endru dhayavuseidhu
    marukkaadheergal....

    idhai dhaan naan sollikkondu varughiren.... purindhu kollungal
    aiyyaa...

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