Dear friends, I am 100% sure none those who oppose this tamil move have ever tried using tamil typing. ekalappai is only 999 Kb in size. Its very miniscule compared to the current day standards.
I am sure some of the junk mails, junk greetings, (may be the Porno stuffs) you receive and watch in your office time are larger than this software.
Ok even if we consider that you cannot install ekalappai(which is only 999kb) or you dont dare to ask the concerned persons to install that for you in browsing centres, you can atleast install only the font TSC_Avarangal(or other similar font) alone to read the discussions.
There should not be any problem in installing one font in any computer.
For your kind info, yesterday i contacted another member of this group, Lavanya over YIM, with my instructions she started typing tamil within few minutes and we were chatting in Tamil ( I repeat in Tamil script) over YIM for about 2 hours.
(Hi Lavanya Are you awake??? please let the group know how easy(or difficult ) its to type tamil)
Muyandral mudiyaathathu ethuvum illai.
About the browsing centres in Chennai, When customers like you demand who will refuse to intall tamil software(which is free)?? Even if they refuse you should take initiative to make it a point that they comply to your demand and install ekalapai for you.
FYI, I was told that the Satyam iWay is planning to make availabe the ekalappai in all their iWay browsing centres. So those using browsing centres for reading mails , should not be having any problem in iWay browsing centres in Chennai.
If we dont use tamil where ever possible tamil will end up in museum ....
> Dear friends, > I am 100% sure none those who oppose this tamil move have ever tried > using tamil typing. > ekalappai is only 999 Kb in size. Its very miniscule compared to the > current day > standards.
> > I am sure some of the junk mails, junk greetings, (may be the Porno > stuffs) you receive and watch in your office time are larger than this > software.
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We would be able to attact more people with the use of honey rather than using vinegar. I hope you do agree with me, over the above statement.
> > Ok even if we consider that you cannot install ekalappai(which > is only 999kb) or you dont dare to ask the concerned persons to install > that for you in browsing centres, you can atleast install only the font > TSC_Avarangal(or other similar font) alone to read the discussions. > > There should not be any problem in installing one font in any computer. > > For your kind info, yesterday i contacted another member of this group, > Lavanya over YIM, with my instructions she started typing tamil within > few minutes and we were chatting in Tamil ( I repeat in Tamil script) > over YIM for about 2 hours. > > (Hi Lavanya Are you awake??? please let the group know how easy(or > difficult ) its to type tamil) > > Muyandral mudiyaathathu ethuvum illai. > > About the browsing centres in Chennai, When customers like you demand > who will refuse to intall tamil software(which is free)?? > Even if they refuse you should take initiative to make it a point that > they comply to your demand and install ekalapai for you. > > FYI, > I was told that the Satyam iWay is planning to make availabe the > ekalappai in all their iWay browsing > centres. So those using browsing centres for reading mails , should not > be having any problem in iWay browsing centres in Chennai. > > If we dont use tamil where ever possible tamil will end up in museum ....
> > For your info: > -------------- > Here are some of the prominent egroups conversing in tamil on daily basis: > tamil.net (http://tamil.net) -- about 5000 members (mother of all tamil > egroups) > agathiyar (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar/) --> 339 members > tamil-ulagam (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamil-ulagam) --> 334 members > Meykandar (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meykandar/) --> 230 members > Rayarkaapiclub (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RayarKaapiKlub/) --> 179 > members > > Appart from that many of the discussion in forumhup portal is in Tamil > script. > http://www.forumhub.com/home.shtml > > Anbudan, > Mugunth > > > Thilak ????????: > > Krupa, > > I agree with you on this English/Thanglish/Thamizh > > thing. My system asks for an admin previlage for all > > the installations and I live in a place where there > > are only 2000 and XPs, and the last couple of digests > > I have been getting all Bombay Dyeing designer curtain > > kinda mail (since my system doesnt recognise the font- > > I am NOT against e-Kalappai). I am missing the fun > > too, and it sure has hampered my enthusiasm in > > participating in the discussions. I know that there > > are a lot of passive members in the group who read all > > the mails, enjoy the discussion, but really dont get > > involved. If we stick to tamil fonts, the discussion > > group may shrink, I'm afraid. As I said before, I am > > not against tamil fonts; its just that we cant expect > > all the 150+ members to have the technical feasibility > > (or should I say luxury?)of downloading s/w and typing > > in tamil. It's upto the group to decide. > > Anybody with me in this? > > Thilak. > > > > Krupa: Naanum ungaloda irukkennudhan sollanumnu > > nenachen, ana indha maari type panna koodadhunnudhan > > sollala :) > > > > ===== > > > > Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistant one > > > > - Albert Einstein > > > >
Its so pathetic that some mails are misunderstood. Its not the question of SIZE of the file we are discussing here. Its the admin privilage we need to install stuff.
> ekalappai is only 999 Kb in size. Its very miniscule compared to the > current day > standards.
> Ok even if we consider that you cannot install ekalappai(which > is only 999kb) or you dont dare to ask the concerned persons to install....
-It may not be easy for everyone to understand your problem, that u want to use your language s/w installed. If they start OK-ing such requests, there will be more chinese and spanish computers in US than english.
> that for you in browsing centres,........ -we are not talking about browsing centers here.
I realize that there's no point in talking about this. Atleast I know a couple of members in the group have the same problem. Thamizh vaazhga!
Guys, whatz going on? Those who can type in thamizh pls. do and convert them to .gif format and upload. Others continue to write in english. Itz as simple as that. Mr. Mugunth, we are better off without ur constant remindings of we being thamizhs. Ram
Sorry folks, I wouldn't have liked to interfere in this thread. A few thoughts, may be to conclude(??!) this thread.
I would like to quote a few points. Muguntharaj is doing an excellent job by making e-kalappai available to us. The problem with this solution is that one needs administrative previliges for using it. Those mainly affected by this are the ones using browsing centers and the ones using computers in their workplace. Asking the administrators at these places may not be possible due to lot of reasons. Knowing your abilities muguntharaj, will it be possible to have a solution that needs no admin power even to install a font.
Thinking about Ram's suggestion, I would like to add that write whatever you would like to in english/tanglish/tamil as we all value the message more. We'll be glad if it could be in tamil. When you want to use tamil fonts just screen capture the message as you write into a gif/jpg and upload it into your account in yahoo or some other place. Please, DONT ATTACH it to the group mails as mailbox/group storage space is precious. Just give the link at the bottom for the use of others. Those who cant send it in Tamil, I appreciate that you still want to talk about Tamil, inspite of the difficulty of having to write only in english! It'll give us all immense pleasure when you move into the higher plane by communicating in tamil.
Vazhga Ponniyin selvan(had to say it somewhere) kaaviyam! valarga adhan pugazh!
Yagna
===== "Thejasvina vadhitha-m-asthu" - May what we study be well studied : Yajur veda
may be my response is a bit too late..and the discussion and fire may have died down.
I think a few of our friends are missing a point..It is easy for people who have their own personal PCs and Laptops to install tamil fonts and software.
I have tamil fonts in my PC and Laptop but I have access to 15 PCs in the department am I go to install tamil in all those getting permission from the administators and managers..imagine there are 60% overseas doctors in the UK 50%are indians and you can imagine if each,arab,syrian,and chinese installed their fonts in the system which native english can't understand the fonts and scripts then they speculate as to the content of the text(LET US COME TO REAL WORLD WHERE DARK SKINNED PEOPLE ARE LOOKED UPON AS TERRORISTS IN THE WESTERN WORLD)It is not that we rae averse to tamil communication and let people dont make it an issue and makethe egroup nasty as I have seen some communications and messages.
The members in the states and UK have kept the group going as they can browse and type during work and at home lets not kill the spirit by being bullishly pedantic....
I know it didnt mean anything but statments like smaller than the junk files{porn} is not the politically correct thing to say we have been a good and elite group and Ram lets maintain it that way.
It sometimes becomes reading Tamil typed in english difficult but I think we have to live withit for now
I am as enthused about tamil and have tamil fonts but the time I spend at home is from 2200hrs to 630hrs am I going to be surfing then No way mates
I hope we just put a blanket statement on the website mentioning its atamil/tamnglish/english web site)to deter people from these pedantic discussion as though they are the only ones breathing TAMIL and the rest dont give a damn about TAMIL.
I would agree with Sridhar. I am a computer consutant shuttling to various client sites and come home only at the week-end. Though I access my mails, I cannot install Tamil fonts at all my client sites. It is easier for me read English or Tamenglish rather than installing Tamil fonts.
Thanks to Krupa, Raja, Ramani, Sridhar, Sreeram, Shanta et al (and ofcourse, Ram) for understanding the font problem. So there are more than one person in the group with the same problem. Kadalaimittai was sweet, Krupa. Atleast I can read all the tamil mails now. Thilak
> Kadalaimittai was sweet, Krupa. Atleast I can read all > the tamil mails now. > Thilak
Really wonderful & thanks! There are so many errors in it, but I just cannot stop uploading it. I have fixed those errors (like differentiation between tamizh yezhuththu "ch" and "s", etc, but have not uploaded the recompiled file. I am working on Thanglish to tamizh (those Chinese letters) conversion now, and will be through today.
In the meantime, I am trying to display everything in tamizh text itself even if one does not have ekalappai or tamil font installed in their system. If I could have a bit information about the operating system, directory access permission rights, I can focus on a particular one, hence the poll.