Tamil History
  • Dear Kamal,

    There have been mails on Tour :: around Chennai. Madipakkam - Velachery -
    Tiruvanmiyur - Santhome - Allikkeni - Tiruvottiyur ;

    Mamallapuram - Thirukkazhukundram - Manimangalam :: Can be considered..
    There are mails flown already on these places. Can we sum up first and
    work out a programme?

    Re DK etc., You are right about their irrelevance. To the limited extent of
    History & Culture - we can discuss. Like pickles... Not main dish.,

    Previous DMK Government was sanctioning about Rs. 10000 to poor girls for
    wedding under "Moovalur" Ramamirthammal Scheme. Moovalur is a village near
    Kuthalam between Kumbakonam and Mayiladudurai. Whenver I cross this place
    I used to think of this lady and made enquiries. Though the younger
    generation did not know, from some of the elderly I understood that : The
    Lady died unmarried. when she was very young she attended a meeting of
    Gandhiji and was attracted towards freedom struggle. She refused to get
    married, deserted the family, went to North, joined Nethaji's army - became
    a commando in women army - lost her life in Burma war prior to
    Independence! We have heard of Jansi Rani and others. but not heard of
    our neighbour - Moovalur "Ramamirthammal". Fittingly the Government
    sanctioned about Rs. 10000 for the marriage of poor woman.

    The need to search for True History is still growing !


    This morning National DD re-telecast on Rajarajeswaram around 8.oo am. They
    were showing a Dwarapalaka near the sanctum entrance and describing :

    The ankle (feet) of the Dwaralbalaka is caught by an elephant which was
    partly swallowed by a crocodile - to enable us assess the proportion of the
    Dwarabalaka - who shows the Darjini mudhra - Right Index finger upright and
    left palm towards sky - cautioning the person entering the
    sanctum : "Inside the sanctum is Brahadeeswarar - Lord of the Universe!
    Behave yourselves!"

    I think we should learn to look beyond the sculptures also !

    Congrats new members.. interesting messages are posted.. Group is now more
    active..

    fondly, sps
  • Dear Kamal,

    Thanks for your clarifications. This is what I expected from my last
    paragraph of my last mail. Yes I totally agree with you, but my point
    is that, our history has been detoriated by the politicians for their
    personal gains. I did not know about what you said about periyar, but
    from what you say, we can understand that he was neutral. But not the
    current days Dravidian followers. Just the thread how history is
    detoriated made me to write about DK and the Ayodhya excavations.

    Dear SPS,
    Well said, these are just like pickles and not our main dish. Sorry
    for deviating for a while. ooruga kaaram surrunu eerinadhula, sapattu
    taste konjam marandhu pochi.

    I am very happy that the one day tour idea is getting momentum. Can
    we plan something soon, as a trial tour. This weekend is also a long
    weekend, and sunday should be fine. But if short notice is not
    enough, lets plan for next month sundays. Kamal, can you please take
    the initiative of fixing the place and date.

    SPS, you mentioned Madipakkam. I live in Madipakkam for the past 22
    years. What historical significance it has. I never knew that. Can
    you throw light on that. I heard that a sivan koil in Moovarasanpet
    near madipakkam is some 1000 years old and Madipakkam was called
    Chaturvedimangalam in the olden days. But when I visited that temple
    I cant feel that its a historical place. Kindly explain.
  • I can take the initiative, but i am too busy to make trips due to my MBA
    exams till Dec 31st. So, someone else can take initiatives if any trip
    before Dec 31st.

    I think it should be Madambakkam and not Madippakkam.

    The places worth visit around chennai can be Madambakkam (Dhenubureeswarar),
    Thiruvottiyur (I'm not sure if it is Vadivudai amman or something else),
    Manimangalam (2 temples are there. One for shiva and one for vishnu. Even
    Rajaraja's inscriptions are also there), Velacheri (Dhandeeswarar koil, but
    i haven't visited that). In Thiruvanmiyur (Marundheeswarar), nothing is left
    to see after the recent Kudamuzhukku.

    The trip can be named as 'Pallava naattup payanam' and can visit all pallava
    temples in 3 days. (One day for pallava temples in Kanchipuram, one day for
    Mamallapuram and another day for Dhalavaanur, Mandakappattu, Maamandur - all
    Mahendra's cave temples and Manimangkalam where the war described in SS
    between Mahendra and Pulikesi happened).

    First let us decide the places and then date and participants.
  • May be not, directly in Madipakkam. But, Dhenupureeshwarar temple in Nooththancheri is considered to be built by Kulothungan II, Anabhaaya kulothungan.

    The local priest say, the external madapam was built by Pallavas. But, I doubt it, as
    pallavas were not in rule during that time. Anabaaya being the one to have built the sanctum and pallavas the outer mandapam, was little conflicting.

    But, it is a very nice temple. We have Lord Narasimha and Lord Sarabeshwara on the oppsite pillars. And pradoshamis very popular and peaceful.

    Rajendhra Cholan!
  • I think it will take a while for this to materialize..
    Shanmugam, please take the initiative, even if it goes
    beyond Dec 31st and enroll me.

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