Ponniyin Selvan Varalaatru Peravai

Dear Srihari,

This is very interesting .. you have drawn the attention to certain
facts :

Significance of Cauvery & Kabila river :

Kabila river runs from Thondai nadu through Cuddalore - near Panruti -
on the banks of Thiruvadhigai - Sastha is supposed to have born!
Marxia Gandhi has written extensively on this part of Tamil nadu.
She says, it was the Capital of Protugese...

That belt - Thivuakkarai - Thirubuvanai - Thiruvadhigai is marked
with pre-historic finds.. Dyno eggs - fossils etc. Near Ariyalur we
have a fossil forest!

Good to know that Cholas, Cheras, Kanchis & Pandyas are found in
Mahabarath! Thiruvarur Musunda chravarthy is found in Devasura War!
In reciprocation of his services, the diety worshipped by Indira came
to Thiruvarur - hence the Wings!

Fondly, SB

Dear SB
very interesting mail but I have a few concerns about the verses

1.There is mentions of andras karnatakas and keralas...All these were
linguistic states which emerged in later days...The kerala was Chera
kingdom The Karnataka of Today was part Ganga and part Hoisalya nd
part Chalukya and like wise andra was chalukya kigdoms that is not
beleivable >
@@@@@his subjection and exacted tributes from Paundrayas and the
> Dravidas
> > along with the Udrakeralas and the Andhras and the Talavanas the
> > Kalingas and the Ushtrakarnikas and also the delightful city of
> Atavi
> > and that of Yavanas......."
@@@@

2.Krishna did not fight in the great war he was just the
charioteer...this following statement counters that@@@@
[21] ".........Vasudeva's son Krishna ......It was he that slew
> king
> > Pandya by striking his breast against his, and moved down the
> > Kalingas in battle. Burnt by him the city of Varanasi remained
for
> > many years without a king......"
> >
Here it states that Cholas,pandyas and Cheras fought with the
pandavas if so why would Krishna kill the pandya king?

> >
> > [2] "........When that host was being thus struck and slain by
> heroic
> > warriors, the Parthas headed by Vrikodara advance against us.
They
> > consisted of Dhrishtayumna and Sikhandin, and the five sons of
> > Draupadi, and the Prabhadrakes, and Satyaki, and Chekitana with
> the
> > Dravida forces, and the Pandyas, the Cholas, and the Keralas,
> > surrounded by a mighty array, all possessed of broad chests, long
> > arms, tall statures an large eyes. Decked with ornaments,
> possessed
> > of red teeth, endued with the prowess of infuriate elephants,
> attired [19] > >


Yet It states the Pandya king was slain by the pandavas....and
another verse says he fought with the pandavas confusinf and
contradictory???/@@@@
"........The mighty Pandya that foremost of all wielders of
> > weapons has been slain in battle by the Pandavas, what can it be
> but
> > destiny ?......"

[23] "...........and the king of Magadha Jayatsena of great
> strength
> > brought with him for Yudhishthira an Akshauhini of troops. And
> > similarly Pandya who dwelt on the coast -land near the sea, came
> > accompanied by troops of various kinds to Yudhishthira the king
of
> > kings....."

What Do you think folks?

Dear Sridhar Rathinam,
May I venture a few clarifications on the points raised by you?
1.The names Andhra,Karnataka and Kerala are not post linguistic reorganisation ones but original names which had been restored after centuries of distortion.For example Karnataka is derived possibly from Karunadu and Carnatic music is derived from this name.Kerala comes from narikela which means coconut and the name points to a country abounding in coconuts.Cera might have been a Tamil form of the sanskrit name.In fact sangam poems talk of Ceralar (See Orikkonru Ceralarkkitta...,Netunceralatan,Utiyanceral etc). These are names which occurred in the ancient list of 56 or 64? counteries starting from Anga,Vanga,Kalinga,Kashmira etc.
2.Tradition has it that Pandyas traced themselves back to Pandu who in turn was of the lunar race.So the Pandya king should have been on the side of the Pandavas in the MBh war.
GR