Pallava Dynasty - Mahendravarman I
  • Hi,
    1. There is no temple in existence which could be assigned to his reign.
    2. There are enough references of temples' existence however we have no
    surviving example.
    3. Simhavishnu was the king of Kanchi at the time when he vanquished Chola,
    however we will see later how he came to be the king of Kanchi.

    Now we go to next king, Mahendravarman I.
    As per Kasakudi plates, he gained victory at Pullalura, which is identified with
    Pullalur near Kanchi. No one knows who his adversary was; however it is supposed
    that it was Pulakesin II. As per Aihole inscription (EI Vol VI No 1, p 11),
    Pulakesin II obscured Pallavas by the dust of his army and vanished behind the
    walls of Kancipuram. Then he drove down to Cholas, Keralas and Pandyas. The
    country between Ellora and Guntur was under Mahendra but in middle of seventh
    century, this region went into Chalukyas.

    Mattavilasa-prahasana, a Sankrit play, was work of Mahendravarman who is a
    Pallava king and son of Simhavishnu, and has titles like Avanibhajana,
    Mattavilasa, Gunabhara and Satrumalla. V Venkayya (EI Vol III, p 277) states
    that Mahendravarman was first a Jain, later converted into Shaiva by saint
    Appar.
     
    Clarifications:
    1. Simhavishnu was a Vishnu devotee, how come his son Mahendravarman was a
    Jaina? I mean it is possible but what where the circumstances in which it
    happened.
    2. Mahendravarman's childhood was supposed to be spent in Andhra region, which
    suggests that Simhavishnu was reigning over that region, without having Kanchi
    in his domain. Correct? If yes then he would have conquered Kanchi later in his
    career.
    3. Any relation you see between Mahabalipuram's initial monuments and
    Mahendravarman I?
     
    -Saurabh
     
    There are many inscriptions about Mahendravarman I, we will look into details in
    coming posts, when I will start referring other books.
  • There is a reference of Simha Vishnu's father Skanda Varman - also referred as Skanda Sishyan in Thirukkazhugukkundram. Our Gokul has written about this

    In fact that was a grant and shows that the temple predates him.
  • Hi Saurabh,
  • Yes it could be, however Simhavishnu being a devotee of Vishnu would not
    acknowledge this kind of change as this is not just a change of religion of a
    normal person but of a prince which might have dire consequences. First of all,
    all the Brahmana priests would try to oppose this move as change in religion
    would mean shift of favors. Second, it will have an impact on general public as
    well which was probably devoted to Vishnu as per their king but now they would
    find a new religion or devotion.
    Such kind of changes are not easy. I remember as Buddha story of Malati,
    depicted in a painting at Bagh, where Malati was devoted to Buddha. But Brahmana
    priests of that kingdom were not happy with this and they sent an ultimatum to
    the king that either chose Brahmanas or his daughter, if she does not leave
    Buddha's path. Malati did not move and the king was forced to chose Brahmanas
    over his daughter. What I meant is that such kind of changes are not always
    easy.

    -Saurabh
  • Any religion will depicit stories in such a way that they are victims.

    The way the paintings are allowed even in a such supposedly authoratative period shows that there is no such authority.
  • This kind of royal conversion must have happened several times; and as
    you said, the ramifications are more widespread, as many citizens follow
    the king.
    One instance, well documented in vaishnava literature, is the
    conversion of Hoysala king Bitti Deva of Thondanur (Karnataka) to Sri
    Vaishanavam when his daughter was cured of a rare disease (possession by
    a brahmarakshas). The king took the name of Vishnu Vardana and built
    several Vishnu temples. You must visit Talakkad, in Mandya district,
    where one Kirti Narayana temple, buried under sand is under excavation
    and rebuilding.
    Our patron novelist, Kalki, in the novel Ponniyin Selvan, refers to
    possible snatching of Arulmozhi ( Rajaraja) to Buddhism (not by force,
    but by conviction, influence and association) as expressed by some key
    characters and angry public. Kalki's narration is poetic, as usual, when
    he describes these scenes.
    Sampath
  • Dear Members,
    Let me clarify my point or the answer I am seeking. It is stated that
    Mahendravarman was Jain, later converted by Appar. I want to understand the
    circumstances and reasons for such a change as his father was a devotee of
    Vishnu. Can you please furnish references which supports this theory?
    I am aware of such conversions happening in our earlier history, best known
    example is of Asoka The Great, who embraced Buddhism after Kalinga war.
  • Both Mahendra Varman and later the Pandya King Nindraseer Nedumaran were converted to Jainism.
     
    They were becoming very influential with Royal support and temple worship started to have severe impact and Thevaram cronicles closure of many temple - say Pazhayarai Vadathali and Thirupparamkundram siva temple.
     
    Sambandar chronicles the violent acts on him on the way to Madurai and simillarly how Appar had to suffer for reconverting to Saivism from Jainism
     
    regrads
  • hi saurabh

    Mahendra had jain leanings. this is gleaned from the way he mocks the
    buddhists and brahmins in his play.

    we know for sure that he did convert back to worshiping the linga from his
    famous inscription in tirchy lalithangura pallava cave.

    it is known that he and appar were contemporaries - we all know of appar's
    reconversion back to siviate faith in more detail and that he was subject to
    tortures by a powerful king under the tutelage of jain monks who were not
    wanting such a celebrity to ` defect'. in the end matters turned worse and
    the king himself converted after seeing the miracles that assisted appar to
    overcome the trials.

    now problem is appar never mentions the kings name, so there is only
    circumstantial evidence to point at mahendra. though not many accept, there
    are too many coincidences. there is a further verse which states that the
    king destroyed a jaina centre of learning and built a shiva temple with the
    name gunabareswaram - gunabara being one of the birudas of mahendra !!
  • The name, Mahendra, added to it, Varman, means he is a follower of Vardhaman...the Jain thirthankara.
    He sems to have destroyed the Jain temple at Pataliputra and named the deity Pataleswara!!
  • For anyone who's interested, here's an English translation of Mahendra's
    play:
    http://books.google.co.in/books?id=hayV4o50eUEC&lpg=PA84&ots=ZgVnAwxVjj&dq=mattavilasa prahasana translation&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q=mattavilasa prahasana translation&f=false

    It's in a larger book called "Tantra in practice" by David Gordon White.
  • Thanks Shash, I was just about to write a mail to the group for the English copy
    of this play.
  • The Pallava king was also so much impressed by the Jains that he agreed to ban sericulture in Kanchipuram, though Kanchi is still famous for weaving silk sarees!!

    R. Narasimhan
  • that was a good one shash. thanks for sharing. but its funnier to read in
    english

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  • interesting -how did i miss it earlier. see page 89. buddhist: its the evil
    kaapalika who lives in the temple of ekambranaatha.

    http://www.poetryinstone.in
    Here the language of stone surpasses the language of man
  • Not only Ekambranatha - there are references to Kamakshi also in works during Mahendra period.

    will send tonight
  • Hi,
    I read this play and the conclusions from my side are as follows:
    1. one Kapalika mocking Buddhism and Jainism
    2. one confused Buddhist monk, swayed away by worldly pleasure

    Now, I am not able to see where the play writer tried to mock Brahmanas!! To me
    the play is about conflicts of different religions as seen by other religion
    such as Kapalika talking bad about Buddha etc. Also there is not Brahmana
    character, Pasupata may be Brahmana but not sure. In conclusion I am not able to
    find any verse where Brahmanas are mocked.
    @Vj - any help as this play is not giving ample proof of Mahendravarman's
    intention to mock over Brahmanas. A Kapalika cannot be considered as Brahmana as
    this is a different sect itself???

    -Saurabh
  • Is this Ekambranatha same as Ekambareshvar in Kanchi, I would suggest that we
    should check a proper translation from some other writer, most preferable an
    Indian translator.
  • Yes, I noticed that too...

    Does this mean that Ekambranatha is (pre-?) Mahendra?

    Also, interestingly, the whole thing starts with an invocation to "The god
    who carries a skull, the great Kapalin"; wonder if/what this signifies for
    the Jain Mahendra theory...
  • If this is the case then most of the kings of India would be Jaina as 'Varman'
    is there in kings of various dynasties. What do you suggest??
  • Dear Members,
    When you quote any reference, please give the original reference of the
    literature or study from where it is taken, except this your own idea. It will
    help us to understand the reference from our perspective as well. This is just a
    request from my side.
  • hi saurabh

    i stand corrected - must have said worshippers of shiva. apologies. but all
    3 are mocked - pasupatha, kapalika and buddhist.

    what a turn around for someone to say that he returned from hostile faith
    back to worshiping linga


    http://www.poetryinstone.in
    Here the language of stone surpasses the language of man
  • And the Sanskrit version (Transliterated in English):
    http://ignca.nic.in/sanskrit/matta_vilasa_prahasanam.pdf

    This one is from the Wikipedia page.
  • It is said that there were 64 sects in Hinduism at the time of Sankara.

    Including Kapalika, Kalamuga, etc etc including meemmasaka who confined themselve to Poorva Bagam of Vedas.
  • All - Thevara, Thevara Vaippu and Divya Prabandha temples are Pre mahendra.

    Temples like Thiruvallikeni were repaired by Danti Varma etc etc . There are references to Appar, Sambandar themselves taking up repair work/ re opening of temples.

    Kamakshi reference - in Appar Thevaram - will give by 9 pm
  • For anyone who's interested, here's an English translation of Mahendra's play: http://books. google.co. in/books? id=hayV4o50eUEC&lpg=PA84&ots=ZgVnAwxVjj&dq=mattavilasa% 20prahasana% 20translation&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q=mattavilasa% 20prahasana% 20translation&f=false

    me too missed dear Vijay

    thanks shashwath for sharing.

    rgds. sps

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