MURUKA WORSHIP IN TN w.r.t. SANGAM LITERATURE
  • Dear Mr. Vairam,

    following is stated re Muruka worship in Tamilnadu ::


    " The Murukan of the early Tamil society before the age of Sanskritisation was primitive tribal god conceived as a demon who possessed people or hunter.


    The characterization of the earliest Tamil Murukan is in
    complete accord with his descent from the Harappan skeletal deity with similar traits revealed through pictorial depiction of early myths and Dravidian linguistics ! "

    MURUKA WAS TRIBAL GOD - CONCEIVED AS A D-E-M-O-N WHO POSSESSED PEOPLE OR HUNTER !!

    Will be grateful for your kind observations w.r.t. Sangam works.


    best regards / sps

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  • Demon may not be the right term.
    I would like to see the actual tamil word prior to using the word demon.

    - R
  • Generic Paey means Spirit.
    I would prefer the use of the term as in Spirit of nature/forest.

    - R
  • Sps Sir, Good note.
    I will check the actual writing in tamil and come back on it.

    In essence though, Muruka is the forest spirit (also worshiped in various other cultures).

    It is wrong to say that spirit as a Demon. This spirit is similar to the Holy spirit.

    - R
  • There is an extremely beautiful article on Early Muruga worship by Iravatham Mahadevan linking Indus icons with murugan - velan concepts

    G
  • A response to this article:
    http://www.varalaaru.com/Default.asp?articleid=222

    Could not find the original article of the scholar.
  • Dear Gokul,

    pls provide the link or the article.

    thanks and regards / sps

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  • Spirt as in 'rathri veliya pogatha Kathu karupu adichirum'...

    Karupu regarded as gaurdian deity is also feared ..if you do any crime will haunt you...

    Similarly Spirit worship of Muruga didnt exactly mean Deamon worship..but it meant a violent god who would punish immediately like that of Amman worship in villages...

    Spirit worship still can be found in villages ...

    Will soon post details of Balarama worship - I am busy with one other past for last two weeks...will update the group soon
  • Thanks dear Vairam.

    I also recall of detailed discussion on Grama devathas - in the form of some articles.

    will check and revert.

    best regards / sps
  • Dear Vairam,

    " 1.9 The skeletal figure appears to be a symbolic representation of the dead, or rather, the spirit of the dead, or the manes (souls of the `Fathers') or a demonic deity, suggesting some form of ancestor-worship.

    cf. Skt. bhuta(lit., `who was'): a spirit, the ghost of a deceased person, a demon, imp, goblin.

    preta (lit., 'the departed'): the spirit of a dead person (especially before the obsequial rites are performed), a ghost, an evil being.

    Pali peta: dead, departed, the departed spirit; the Buddhist peta signifies both the manes as well as the ghosts.

    Pkt. pe(y)a: a class of gods, the dead.

    Ta. pey: devil, goblin, fiend. (DEDR 4438)17 "

    It is this portion of the paper - which is under discussion.

    varalaaru.com LALITHA responded to this only - as referred by our dear Gokul.

    1.10 The second characteristic shared by Signs 47 & 48, of being seated, denotes dignity or divinity (as in the Egyptian ideograms). The sitting posture has close parallels from the anthropomorphic sculptures found at Mohenjodaro (Pl.I).18 The bent, contracted posture serves as a linguistic clue which will be discussed in Section III.

    thanks for sharing.

    your views are thgoughtfully put forward :


    http://karkanirka.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/murugan1-2/
    http://karkanirka.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/murugan2/
    http://karkanirka.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/murugan3/
    http://karkanirka.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/murugan4/


    I am sure we have well extracted details to handle on this subject.

    Will revert soon on these.

    Thank you very much for your wonderful works - considering the fact that you have very limited access to acquire these details from the USA. Hearty congrats.

    best regards / sps

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  • The spirit in itself does not do anything, its our fear that causes the attraction than anything else.

    Karuppu is the kaval deivam, so your statement falls into that category of kathu karuppu, its usually kept at the end of village.

    - R
  • Dear Vairam.

    Gokul is kind enough to post this article again :

    http://www.varalaaru.com/Default.asp?articleid=157

    Dear members go through this also.

    we will take this up in due course.

    regards / sps

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