A brief study on the Queens and the ?PattaMahishi? of Rajaraja Chola - 1
  • So where does all this discussion on the Queens actually leave Vanathi?!
  • >
    > If she was mentioned in the inscriptions post coronation of RRC,
    > (Kalki brought in the sabatham of vanathi not to take the throne -
    > based on what ???
    >
    > venkat - in kaveri mainthan you had taken that she dies prior to
    his
    > ascension -
    >


    Hi Vijay

    KM just followed PS's epilougue where kalki mentions that vanathi did
    not ascend the throne with rrc.
    in fact it was based on the notion that rjc was brought up by a step
    mother for whom he built a pallipadai.

    venketes






    > rgds
    > vj
    >
  • CLASSICAL QUERY DEAR VIJAY... KUDOS.!


    Udaya Pirattiyar THAMBIRANADIGAL VANAVANMADEVIAR @ THIRUBUVANA
    MADEVIAR (thanks for the quote Dear Srihari @ Virarajendra)is none
    other than mother of Rajendra I ... query of Sathis is answered
    already by Virarajendra.

    But Virarajendra placed HER after Panchavanmadevi .. whose
    inscriptions are found in RRC's 3rd year. !

    VR (@ Veerarajendra) also accorded a Seniority list of Queens
    according to their figuring in RRC's (available / selected)
    inscriptions... and based on this derived that Olagamadevi @ Danthi
    Sakthividangi was not RRC's Crown Queen since she figured in later
    (than 3rd year) inscriptions only..

    I posted OLAGAMADEVIPURAM stating that she figued as early in RRC's
    3rd year inscription itself..

    Gokul posted the Special status enjoyed by Olagamadevi and her
    Mother - as recently (2004-2005) found by Dr. Kalaikkovan and DR.
    Nalini in Thiruvalanchuzhi inscriptions ... varalaaru issue has
    brought out an exclusive volume on these inscriptions as well..

    Now Vijay raised the Query that from the inscriptions posted by
    Virarajendra, it is seen that Vanathi shared the Throne with RRC,
    and she was alive after he ascended the Throne !

    And how did KALKI get this inference that She did not share throne
    with RRC .. which was repeated in Kavirimaindhan also.
  • Date: 26-11-2008

    Dear Sivapathasekaran,

    I wish to provide my very humble reply for your posting below, for
    your study and further comments, to make same a healthy discussion in
    our common interest in exploring the actual past of the great Cholas.

    "Thanking you very much" for your introduction to me, the three
    Inscriptions which speaks on the construction of a Kattrali at
    Ulaga(Olaga)mahadevipuram, and on the construction of a Vimanam at a
    temple at Vanavanmahadevi Chathurvedimangalam. The inscriptions
    indicate that both these constructions were executed by a noble named
    Ambalavan, both belonging to the 3rd year of reign of king Rajaraja
    Chola-1.

    The inscriptions indicate that at a time during the Uttama Chola's
    period of rule, the "wives" (not yet the Queens and the Chief Queen)of
    Rajaraja namely the Ulagamahadevi & Vanavanmahadevi would have
    arranged the renaming of a village and the structuring of the brahmin
    village the Chathurvedimangalam.

    These inscriptions, also goes to prove even though Rajaraja Chola - 1
    was only a Uvaraja (i.e.heir to the throne)during the 17 year period
    of rule of Uttama Chola, temples were built and religious endowments
    to temples were provided - by others in the name of the wives of
    Rajaraja Chola, namely the Ulaga(Olaga or Loka)mahadeviyar and the
    Vanavanmahadeviyar probably on their instructions, and also the
    villages where these temples stood being renamed after them.

    It is also somewhat clear from the above, and my list on Rajaraja's
    Queens given in a chronological order posted in this same website -
    that Ulagamahadeviyar, Vanavanmahadeviyar and Panchavanmahadeviyar
    were the three important "wifes" of Rajaraja Chola (of same status
    level), during his period as Uvaraja of the Chola country under Uttama
    Chola.

    But still there are no "very positive evidences" from the inscriptions
    and the copper-plate grants that has surfaced upto now, to indicate as
    to who was the actual "Patta Mahishi" (Chief Queen)of Rajaraja Chola -
    1 at the time he ascended the Chola throne in A.D.985, like how one of
    the inscriptions of Uttama Chola states postively that "....Urattayan
    Sorabbaiyar the (alias Thiribhuvana Mahadeviyar) the
    mutta-nampirattiyar of Uttama Chola...." (488 of 1925 from
    Sembiyanmahadevi, Thanjavur).

    Hence we are left with no option other than sequencing their
    inscriptions in the order of Rajaaja Chola's ruling year and reasoning
    out in the way indicated in my posting.

    Virarajendra
  • Yes in a surreptitious under water attack!
    Sampath

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