Stone Carvings
  • Hi Friends,
    I once went to Kalughumalai , near kovilpatti,
    There is a small temple , behind the main temple,
    When i saw the temple , i was really amazed,
    They have actually tried to convert a small mountain into temple,
    By seeing impression on the sides and floor of the half built temple,
    I thought the rock was sweeped and carved like sweeping and digging the sand,

    I dont even have any slightest idea of what technique was used,
    If anybody knows about this please share your information.

    Thanks and Regards.
    Raja M




    Raja
  • -Hi Rajaram

    hope you took photos.

    also friends I wonder why there are are closely parallel lines etched
    on the floor and the walls of semi finished temples( especially
    mamallapuram) what were these lines for?

    venketesh
  • Hi Venketesh,
    I didnt take any photos,
    it was an unplanned trip as i went to one of my friends house,
  • hi guys

    the close lines are infact a string of square holes chisled out.
    later wooden pegs were inserted into them ( aappu) and watered. the
    peg would take in water and expand ...when the whole string of pegs
    expanded they had enough force to crack the stone. have added the
    pictures in the photo section
  • -no vijay

    i am talking about entire sides of existing temples in mahabs with
    parallel lines etched.


    what you are talking about we saw in mahabs quarry.

    venketesh-- In ponniyinselvan@yahoogroups.com, "Vijay Kumar
  • oh, okok...those must be the chisel marks..remember seeing them in
    action when the aru padai veedu construction was going on in besant
    nagar...the guys just kept chiselling away all day..uliyin oosai
    might sound good for a name but it was pretty irritating stuff when
    you have to put up with it all day..unlike the lilting rings of a
    damsels anklets..
  • Venkat,

    Are you referring to the big squares on the walls etced and
    unfinished? I think we talked about this a lot during our mahabs
    trip but all were only assumptions :)

    Now another thing strikes me. Just a wild guess. I know its easier
    to draw within sqares. ie. to draw a replica of an existing picture,
    the original picture is divided into sqares by parallel lines. An in
    the plain sheet again parallel lines are drawn as sqares. If we
    start copying the lines as in the orignal, we will get the replica
    of the orginal. Again, the size of the picture can be varied without
    affecting the proportion of the orignal. If I have one inch sqares
    in the original and half inch sqares in my fresh paper, i will get
    the same painting half the size of the original without loosing out
    the proportions.

    Maybe, the sculptors also had a mastercopy drawn in a cloth or
    someother material and tried to enlarge it on the walls and left it
    after that.

    I also thought why not chalkpiece or charcoal instead of such
    labour. Anyway, for 'pudaippu chirpam' they have to remove the
    surrounding pieces and these sqares will help them to save lot of
    effort.

    Just a wild guess.
  • Hi Friends!
    First of all let me introduce myself,
    I am a civil structural engineer working in Abu Dhabi, I was informed about
    thisgroup by Mr. Ramesh (RAR), japan. I found here there are many
    interesting topics being discussed, so I also would like to participate in
    some.

    Have you ever been to singaperumal kovil near chennai? this temples also
    like what Mr Raja ram said, this temple also like carved out from a mount.
    when you go around this temple you can see that, the main karpagiraham and
    all in low level but when you go around you have to step up the mount and
    then down. Really during those days when they cut out a stone for sculptures
    and temple they would have toiled very hard with huge task force. But I am
    also wondering what techniques they could have used!!
  • Welcome my Namesake sans the spelling :)

    With the limited knowledge I have, Singaperumal koil is
    a 'kudavarai' meaning templed carved out of a mountain, instead of
    stones being brought to a different place for making the sculpture.

    Initial days stone temples were 'kudavarais'. I am not sure about
    the timeline of Singaperumal koil. experts can pour in details.

    For your information, pillayarpatti is also a similar temple like
    Singaperumal koil.
  • CAVE TEMPLES.

    WE ARE TALKING OF THEM.

    SINCE MORE INTEREST IS GENERATED WILL POST MORE DETAILS ON THIS.

    WELCOME NEW MEMBERS.

    GREETINGS.

    Pls share your views more.

    And Dear Satish,

    That is an interesting WILD GUESS !

    sps
  • Hi Mr.Satish,

    Please follw this link about pillayaarpatti
    http://indiantemples.com/Tamilnadu/karppill.html
    what you said is correct! this temple detes back to 4 th century AD and
    related to Pandiya kingdom...acc'to this page..
    But when i visited this temple I was not able to perceive that this is a
    rock cut temple...may be because of the later developments in the other
    outer prakaaram....
  • The Siva and Vishnu moolavars and shrines in Thirumayam (Pudukkotai -
    Karaikudi route) are also rock cut; these temples are maintained by ASI
    and are worth visiting. The octogonal tank called 'satya pushkarani' is
    also an unusual one.

    Sampath
  • Hi All,

    Please find the photos of Kalugumalai in the following links,

    http://www.indoarch.org/place.php?placelink=R=5+S=19+P=278+M=1144

    In this site(http://www.kalugumalai.com/) please go to photos section,
    vast collection of photos are availabe, about the Jain structures and the vattuvan koil (The temple which i referred in my first mail)
  • Hi All,

    Please find the photos of Kalugumalai in the following links,

    http://www.indoarch.org/place.php?placelink=R=5+S=19+P=278+M=1144

    In this site(http://www.kalugumalai.com/) please go to photos section,
    vast collection of photos are availabe, about the Jain structures and the vattuvan koil (The temple which i referred in my first mail)
  • hi
    i incidentally crosed thirumayam fort yesterday.
    just stopped at the kottai bhairavar shrine.

    i remember being told the perumal - meyyappar at thirumeyam is bigger
    than arangan.

    cave temples starting from thirumayam, pillaiyarpatti, mahibalan
    patti dot that area
    venketesh
  • thank you very much,
    very good link.

    best regards / sps

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