Founder of Vijayanagar
  • Dear Dr.JayBee,

    >>>The Tamilians had no say whatsoever.
    They lost the edge and the advantage. One does not argue with
    militarist conquerors.

    That was true for the entire India then.Entire India was enslaved
    except Tamilnadu.Given a chance,any state in India then would have
    gladly accepted a telugu ruler than a sultan.We lost our indigenous
    emperors but atleast our culture was saved.



    >>>>>>>>Initially, yes.
    Inspiration was given by Sayana and Madhava. They looked at
    Hindu culture. But they had hidden agendas and ulterior motives.
    Under the casteless Islam, where will they stand?

    Islam has 2 castes.Muslims and non-muslims.Islam was benign to
    muslims,but bought tears and misery to hindus.The hindu holocaust is
    the biggest holocaust in the history of mankind.The millions of
    rajasthani women who jumped in fire to save their chastity are proof
    to this.

    >>>>I dont know about that. That is the general beleif anyway.
    For the Bahmani Sultans and for Vijayanagar and later for the
    Maharathas, religion has been a very good pretext.
    Turks, Afgans, Bahminis and later, the Mughals held
    onto Bharath only with the ardent help of the Hindus. Divided Hindus
    are anytime better managed than unified Muslims.
    They were all feudalistic militarist warlords basically.

    Indian kings were a shame to our nation.They
    sold our country to muslims initially and british finally.But
    hinduism gave us strength to survive the holocaust.It created saints
    in droves,the bakthi movement spread during muslim rule only.Finally
    it was a gujarathi vaishnavite who won us independence by using
    vedic principles of fasting and satyagraha

    sampath
  • Sorry freinds have to delete these two messages
    Sri
  • There is a story which lead to emergence of Vijaya Nagara samraajyam.


    Vidhyaranya, is one of the pontiffs of Sringeri Shaaradha peetam...After sensing a danger from muslims towards south..he was in an urge to do something to put a stop to this...this is one task.

    He is a great Shrividhyo upasaka..and was intiated to matra, 'Soubhagya Panchadasi' or 'Soubhagya Panchadhasaakshari'..a 15 sylabbled mantra. He chanted it so many times and Goddess Lalitha Parameshwari appeared in form of Mahalakshmi..and granted him a boon..it seems he asked for lots and lots of money..but godess said..she cannot have it in this birth..So he did what Pious Adhi Shankara did..he immediately for Sanyasa..which means he has taken an other birth. Now, the problem was ..as a sanyasin..he cannot touch the money. So, he wanted to use it in establishing the Empire..He had two people..and made them valiant enough to manage a empiredom after establishing it..

    He gave them a 'Adikkal' and requested them to place it at ground..when he blows the counch..He went far to study the stars at a clear sky..and these two people were waiting..suddenly they heared a counch blown.and they kept the 'Adikkal' down..then they also heared another counch blown. Alas..they missed it..the second one was blown by vidhyaranya..when Vidhyaranya came ot know about this..he was upset and pacified himself thiking it is all will of God.

    The empire thus estalibshed was Vijayanagara. If they had placed the 'Adikkal' at the correct time..it seems the Muslim rulers, could not have entered south for 2000 years..

    Finally, this is a fact and not to hurt any muslim brothers in the forum.

    Rajendhra Cholan!
  • Hi,

    Islam also have wide divisions. Shia and sunny always
    fight with each other.In Iraq, Pak, it is always a
    problem. Even in our UP (lucknow areas) every year
    they fight.

    There ia another division, ahmadia muslims. They
    follow other prophets also.

    So, it is not that other religions are of homogeneious
    group. In Christianity, there are more than 20
    divisions. Many fight each other in pulling members
    from one group in to their group as religious
    conversion

    Bye
    MA Eswaran



    >Under the casteless Islam, where will they stand?

    >Islam has 2 castes.Muslims and non-muslims.Islam was
    >benign to
    >muslims,but bought tears and misery to hindus.The
    >hindu holocaust is
    >the biggest holocaust in the history of mankind.The
    >millions of
    >rajasthani women who jumped in fire to save their
    >chastity are proof
    >to this.

    sampath

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