> As for Kalkiya Sandilyana its like comparing > Manirathinam and KS Ravikumars works.
Enna ipadi solliteenga athukunu???? Kalki is uncomparable ...agreed....but sandilyan is also very great writer in his style...avaroda varnanaye thani azhagu thaan....atha deny panna mudiyaathu...
Manirathnam and Shankar may be more appropriate ;) (BTW, I don't have high regards for Manirathnam )
Yes, Sandilyan novels are more masala, his heroes are superman-kind, still there is no denying the fact that he is the master of action-packed-historical novel genre.
Particularly his war sequences are unparalleled. (My favourite : Raajamuthirai) I haven't found such details in any other writer I have read, including Kalki and Akilan (Enakku neram sariyilla, konjam pechai koraikkanum).
Anyway my idea of writers' (I have read) style: Sandilyan - Action-Masala (Matrix) Akilan - Sentiment-Romance (Gladiator) Srivenugopalan - Ditto Mu.Karunaanithi - Political propaganda style (Romapuri Pandiyan is the only book I read) Kalki - Kalki Style (Lord of the Rings)
In Sandilyan's Novels, I felt some sort of stereotypic style he followed. In most of his novels, there would be always two heroins, always comparison about their beauty, which would also always be contrasting, like ponnira koondhal/kaarmega vaNNa koondhal, neela nayanangaL/karunthiratchai kan manigaL etc... and the hero would always love both the beauties!!
He has very well described about building the ship in Kadal puRa and the was sequence in Raja Muthirai. I dont deny. But some of his novels (forgot the name, not that worth to remember also:P, Yaarum adikka varaathinga!! ) he has dealt mostly of romance. While reading them, I was thinking the novel would be worth atleast for the well described war sequence. Alas! that went on hardly 5-10 pages with nothing great in it.
Yeah, I agree he has his master pieces like Yavana Rani, Kadal PuRa, Raja Muththirai, Raja Thilagam.. BUT STILL KALKI'S PS TOPS ALL :)
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In Sandilyan's Novels, I felt some sort of stereotypic style he followed. In most of his novels, there would be always two heroins, always comparison about their beauty, which would also always be contrasting, like ponnira koondhal/kaarmega vaNNa koondhal, neela nayanangaL/karunthiratchai kan manigaL etc... and the hero would always love both the beauties!!
> Quite true. But on the other side Kalki has written only 3 historical novels while Sandilyan has some 30+ to his credit(Or is it an under-estimate). So it is natural that a trend starts showing up. (I generally used to skip his romance scenes. They are all the same ;)
He has very well described about building the ship in Kadal puRa and the was sequence in Raja Muthirai. I dont deny. But some of his novels (forgot the name, not that worth to remember also:P, Yaarum adikka varaathinga!! ) he has dealt mostly of romance. While reading them, I was thinking the novel would be worth atleast for the well described war sequence. Alas! that went on hardly 5-10 pages with nothing great in it.
> I think it is Vijayamahadevi or something. I couldn't even complete it.
Yeah, I agree he has his master pieces like Yavana Rani, Kadal PuRa, Raja Muththirai, Raja Thilagam.. BUT STILL KALKI'S PS TOPS ALL :)
> Objection your 'onour. I repeat, No point comparing them. They are authors of different genres. They are the top writers in their respective domains.
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That was interesting. I have read almost all of Sandilyans novels as well like Karthikeyan said yes Kalki has only written 3 historical novels and sandilyan numerous but I dont think you can take into account all of his Ranimuthu kurunovels... Sandilyan Sandilyan has produced epics like Yavanarani and Kadal pura ,kannimaadam(was it sandilyan|) rjamuthirai and rajaperigai...
but his charectorisation and scenarios are stereotyped..(I just recently read Yavanarani and Kadal pura..I personally like YavanaRani I should Say.
The Hero is always a Upathalapathi,...has a foreigner as his Adimai..Hippalas(Yavanarani) Moor samath(Vijayamahadevi)...Amir( Kadal Pura)
One or more Heroines...Explicit romatintic descriptions some times a bit more than the normal...
The villains are all vadikattuna porukkis like tamil movies...
Always the villains daughter or valarppupenn falls for the hero...
The hero always fakes he is faltering and hits back when the enemy is not expecting...
I agree his war scenarios are good especially the final battle plan for karikalan in Yavanarani or the kadal pors in Kadal Pura...He even sketches the Clives years in Rajaperigai very well.but they tend to be stereotyped....
the other irritating bit in his style is ending a chapter in a suspense note and starting the next chapter in retrospect and working towards that suspense and by then that chapter will end...
Sandilyans heros carry the story in their shoulders as opposed to other authors...the heroines are just for beauty and sometimes to fight among themselves.
In my opinion his best is YavanaRani.
Akilan Soft romance and a good storyline keeps up the suspense and the same time doesnt bore you.The charectorisation is more like kalki with more charectors sharing the burden of the story like eg Vengaiyin Mainthan had 4 main charectors Ilango.Arulmozhi,Rohini and Rajendra Chola and the times and turmoils are well illustarted.
Vikraman: Personal opinion but he is an excellent example of how one should not write sequels he tarnishes all of kalkis charectors in Nandhipura nayagi.Vanathi is a jeaulos person,Kundavai is a kodungol arakki who seperates the island girl from arulmozhi,even the conception of Rajendra is done as a confusion(well vanathi in sithapiramai etc)
Kovi Manisegaran: Just one Chola Nila very good pace
............................. Kanchikathiravan Cant remember the author but again very nice pace about mahendrapallava and simhavisnu period.
Sujatha A change from his Iyandras and Vasanth and Ganesh in Ratham Ore Niram...a very interesting peice of histroric novel set in the backdrop of the sepoy mutiny etc. Cant say the same for his half written Kanthalur vasanthakumaran kathai...
So Sandilyan is good but not in the same genre as Kalki
I'm feeling guilty that I've not read as much like the others or remember them. But what do people think of Maguda Nila by Mu. Mehta? ( I may have a biased opinion becos I will never accept that anything can equal PS.... Sujatha is a very good writer but again of a very different genre. He can be compared to Jeffrey Archer when you consider his short stories....)
I am a new member of this group and have avidly followed the goings here for some time now. Intha mathiri oru group with this much amount of interaction irukkaratha paarthu santhoshama irukku.
This thread reminded me of another thread in forum hub which was forwarded by my colleague. Not quite the same topics, but renduthalayume there are two categories. One who is percieved to be an ilakkiyavaathi and the other a popular author.
> In most of his novels, there would be always two heroins, > always comparison about their beauty, which would also always be > contrasting, like ponnira koondhal/kaarmega vaNNa koondhal, neela > nayanangaL/karunthiratchai kan manigaL etc... and the hero would > always love both the beauties!!
I dont remember that the hero karikalan falls for 2 heroines in 'Mannan Magal' That was also a great master piece. You can compare it with 'Vengaiyin mainthan' That is also description of Rajendra Chola. More over descriptions of two heroines is not a big crime. Even in PS Kalki compares vanathi vs poonguzhali and also vanathi vs kunthavai. Description and comparison of characteristics of two people only adds to the character. When a person has written more than 30 novels, be fair to him also. > But some of his novels > (forgot the name, not that worth to remember also:P, Yaarum adikka > varaathinga!! ) he has dealt mostly of romance. While reading them, I > was thinking the novel would be worth atleast for the well described > war sequence. Alas! that went on hardly 5-10 pages with nothing great > in it.
Your remarks about novels, the name not worth remembering is cruel. Some novels go that way also, I think you refer to moongil kottai. But the standard he set for himself is what made you think that way. Sollarathai sollitu adikka varathenu sonna eppadi?
Regarding Romance, that is part of life. In a novel with 50 chapters, 4 chapters of romance as sandilyan himself says is not crime. Infact I feel that's what makes the novel lively. Right from kalidasa to Bharathi, romance has its place.
> Yeah, I agree he has his master pieces like Yavana Rani, Kadal PuRa, > Raja Muththirai, Raja Thilagam.. BUT STILL KALKI'S PS TOPS ALL :) > > > Objection your 'onour. I repeat, No point comparing them. They are authors > of different genres. They are the top writers in their respective domains.
Yes Karthik, Iam also here for your support. Both of them are top quality writers and honestly speaking Sandilyan's vivid descriptions are a class apart.
> Sandilyan has produced epics like Yavanarani and Kadal pura ,kannimaadam (was it sandilyan|) rjamuthirai and rajaperigai... > > but his charectorisation and scenarios are stereotyped..(I just recently read Yavanarani and Kadal pura..I personally like YavanaRani I should Say. > > The Hero is always a Upathalapathi,...has a foreigner as his Adimai..Hippalas(Yavanarani) Moor samath(Vijayamahadevi)...Amir( Kadal Pura)
Comeon Mr.Sridhar, even in PS, the hero is Vanthiya Devan and in SS its Paranjothi. The author sees the situation through their eyes. Thats their style.
> One or more Heroines...Explicit romatintic descriptions some times a bit more than the normal...
What is normal romantic description and whats not is upto the individuals concerned. But to be honest, I feel people read his books, enjoy it and later comment it as too romantic. Its just a taboo against romance, I feel. (Ethavathu thakkarathuna koncham pathu seiyungo sir)
> The villains are all vadikattuna porukkis like tamil movies... > Always the villains daughter or valarppupenn falls for the hero... > The hero always fakes he is faltering and hits back when the enemy is not expecting... This is too general a statement. Villain ethirpakkaramathiri hero senja then the villain becomes a hero.
> the other irritating bit in his style is ending a chapter in a suspense note and starting the next chapter in retrospect and working towards that suspense and by then that chapter will end...
Doctor sir, adutha chapterku ungalai izhukkarathum authoroda poruppu illaya. Ungal clientsai first sittingleye finalise panni anuppiduvungala?
> Sandilyans heros carry the story in their shoulders as opposed to other authors...the heroines are just for beauty and sometimes to fight among themselves.
Can you please tell me more about our south India history where the females played great roles in administering our territories?
> Akilan > Soft romance and a good storyline keeps up the suspense and the same time doesnt bore you.The charectorisation is more like kalki with more charectors sharing the burden of the story like eg Vengaiyin Mainthan had 4 main charectors Ilango.Arulmozhi,Rohini and Rajendra Chola and the times and turmoils are well illustarted.
I really feel personally that a little bit of romance in vengaiyin mainthan would have added flavour to the novel. I really cannot agree that when lovers meet, that too after one has been away or rather forced to be away, chatting and keeping a distance of a metre between them. > > Vikraman: > Personal opinion but he is an excellent example of how one should not write sequels he tarnishes all of kalkis charectors in Nandhipura nayagi.Vanathi is a jeaulos person,Kundavai is a kodungol arakki who seperates the island girl from arulmozhi,even the conception of Rajendra is done as a confusion(well vanathi in sithapiramai etc)
Sir, I have not read this novel. But your comment has forced me to go in search of this book. Just imagine, and Iam assured that you would have read PS first. Had you read the nandhipura nayagi first what would have been your opinion about vanathi and kunthavai? I really like analysing the same situation from a different angle.
And there is one more novel which was also good, sorry I remember neither the name of the book nor the author, but its was a story between nayakkars and the cholas(after thirumalai nayakkar).That was also really pacy.
> I would like to add Sreevenugopalan to this list. > Two of his novels 'Thiruvarangan Ula' and 'Madura Vijayam' are well written. > The former depicting the plight of Srirangam idol and the start of Muslim > rule in TN, while the latter deals with the overthrow of the Muslim rule by > Vijayanagar and restoring of the idol to Srirangam temple, with nice > romance.
Thanks Mr.Karthik, I was really desperate to read these 2 novels which I happened to read really many years before, I forgot its names. Thanks for reminding them.
Moreover, regarding your opinion on Vijayanagar, I agree it was bhamini sultans who destroyed the empire. But after reading 'Vetri thirunagar' I feel they alone were not responsible for that.
> I'm feeling guilty that I've not read as much like the others or remember them. But what do people think of Maguda Nila by Mu. Mehta? > ( I may have a biased opinion becos I will never accept that anything can equal PS.... Ms. Prathiba, I really feel you have a biased opinion. When you have already given the judgement that PS is the best, then no point in analysing other novels isn't it? Be fair.
> The Hero is always a Upathalapathi,...has a foreigner as his > Adimai..Hippalas(Yavanarani) Moor samath(Vijayamahadevi)...Amir( Kadal Pura)
In one kuru-novel of Sandilyan, even the hero is an elder Arabian traveler.
> Comeon Mr.Sridhar, even in PS, the hero is Vanthiya Devan and in SS its > Paranjothi. The author sees the situation through their eyes. Thats their > style.
But still Vandiya Thevan and Paranjothi are historical characters, while GENERALLY Sandilyan's heroes are karpanai upathalapathi kathaapathirangal but for exceptions like Ilaya Pallavan, Veerapandiyan etc. (Same side goal!)
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> I dont remember that the hero karikalan falls for 2 heroines in 'Mannan > Magal' That was also a great master piece. You can compare it > with 'Vengaiyin mainthan' That is also description of Rajendra Chola. More > over descriptions of two heroines is not a big crime.
sat > I don't mean its a big crime.. but when I read two or three Sandilyan's in the short span, I felt like skipping many of the pages and skipped by getting bored of the stereotypic comparison.
> Even in PS Kalki > compares vanathi vs poonguzhali and also vanathi vs kunthavai. Description > and comparison of characteristics of two people only adds to the character.
sat > What are being compared and how they are compared also matter a lot. In Sandilyan's, mostly the comparison would be of azhakiyal. In PS, vanathi and poonguzhali comparison will be mostly of their characters, attitude etc. Konjam bayantha character Vanathi, thunichchalaana characters Ponguzhaliyodayum, koodavE irukkara Kundhavaiyodayum compare panrathu, as u say it enhanced the characters.
But as i said, sandilyan's comparison perumpaalum azhagiyal saarnthathaagavE irukkum.
> Your remarks about novels, the name not worth remembering is cruel. Some > novels go that way also, I think you refer to moongil kottai. But the > standard he set for himself is what made you think that way. Sollarathai > sollitu adikka varathenu sonna eppadi?
sat > I am not blaming Sandilyan's all novels(naan padichcathum konjam thaan :P). In fact the historical novel which I read very first and which made me to be interested in historical novels and history (school history lessons ellam just for exams thaan :P ) is of Sandilyan only. Yavana Rani!! Many say Kadal PuRa is his master piece. Ithula naanum Sri side. According to me too, its Yavana Rani!!
> > Regarding Romance, that is part of life. In a novel with 50 chapters, 4 > chapters of romance as sandilyan himself says is not crime.
sat > Four chapters of romance is fine... But if the same is in every fourth chapter ?!!!! (AdikkavE vanthuduvinga nenaikkiren, joot :) )
What is normal romantic description and whats not is upto the individuals concerned. But to be honest, I feel people read his books, enjoy it and later comment it as too romantic. Its just a taboo against romance, I feel. (Ethavathu thakkarathuna koncham pathu seiyungo sir)
sat > padikkaamalE toooooooo romantic-nu eppadi solla mudiyum ;):P
I really feel personally that a little bit of romance in vengaiyin mainthan would have added flavour to the novel. I really cannot agree that when lovers meet, that too after one has been away or rather forced to be away, chatting and keeping a distance of a metre between them.
sat > In Vengaiyin Mainthan, the emotions of each persons has been handled so neat.. Mainly, Akilan had very well described the feeling of such an emotional and eccentric character Rohanaththu Ilvarasi. The way she irritates the Hero, the way she makes him feet pity for her later, the way she pities and curses him and herself and ... Wow !!
I am a big Sandilyan fan I admire Sandilyan as much as i admire Kalki but you have to call a spade a spade if not I wont be reading Yavanarani and Kadal pura for the 7th or 8th time. ,
> The Hero is always a Upathalapathi,...has a foreigner as his Adimai..Hippalas(Yavanarani) Moor samath(Vijayamahadevi)...Amir( Kadal Pura)
Comeon Mr.Sridhar, even in PS, the hero is Vanthiya Devan and in SS its Paranjothi. The author sees the situation through their eyes. Thats their style. Now I dont say a hero or main charector has to be the King what I say is the way the storyline goes...the charectors theres always a sanyasi..a kadalkollaikaran...stereotyping is the word.
> One or more Heroines...Explicit romatintic descriptions some times a bit more than the normal...
What is normal romantic description and whats not is upto the individuals concerned. But to be honest, I feel people read his books, enjoy it and later comment it as too romantic. Its just a taboo against romance, I feel. (Ethavathu thakkarathuna koncham pathu seiyungo sir)
Ethavadhu sollanumnu sollrathukkaka 2am ku ukarnthu yarum type panrathu kidayathu especially if you have stayed up till 2 am to finish reading the book. I dont deny that Sandilyan has a style and pace and has produced masterpieces I wont call them epics the only one in my opinion to call for an epic status in thamil is PS Sandilyans work are more masala Infact I have dreamed to see if someone would have the will to make movies or seriala of yavanarani and kadalpura....it will be roaring success> The villains are all vadikattuna porukkis like tamil movies... > Always the villains daughter or valarppupenn falls for the hero... > The hero always fakes he is faltering and hits back when the enemy is not expecting... This is too general a statement. Villain ethirpakkaramathiri hero senja then the villain becomes a hero. what i meant is sterotyping there is no room for suspense like in kadalpura be it kangadevan or balavarman ilayapallavan uses the same tactic acting like a drunkard and kanchana nad manjalalaki do the same...getting angry and irritated and the hero keeps all his aides guessing and treats them like imbeciles......sterotyping..... > the other irritating bit in his style is ending a chapter in a suspense note and starting the next chapter in retrospect and working towards that suspense and by then that chapter will end...
Doctor sir, adutha chapterku ungalai izhukkarathum authoroda poruppu illaya. Adutha chapterku ilucuradu vera ILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCRRRRRRAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUU vera Ungal clientsai first sittingleye finalise panni anuppiduvungala? Unfortunately the answer is Yes If that was what they need that was it.
> Sandilyans heros carry the story in their shoulders as opposed to other authors...the heroines are just for beauty and sometimes to fight among themselves.
Can you please tell me more about our south India history where the females played great roles in administering our territories? Kundavai though was not a king or queen had a great role in shaping the greatness of chola kingdom.....and greatness is not administrating only ...murathal puliyai adithu thurathinalum greatness than....what I am saying is SSandilyans Heroines are depected as women of valour but there is always a man guiding them...even alli even yavana rani they are all guided and orchestrad on the contrary Kalkis charectors have amind of their own...like Poongulali or kundavai...nandhini she makes men dance to her tune... > Akilan > Soft romance and a good storyline keeps up the suspense and the same time doesnt bore you.The charectorisation is more like kalki with more charectors sharing the burden of the story like eg Vengaiyin Mainthan had 4 main charectors Ilango.Arulmozhi,Rohini and Rajendra Chola and the times and turmoils are well illustarted.
I really feel personally that a little bit of romance in vengaiyin mainthan would have added flavour to the novel. I really cannot agree that when lovers meet, that too after one has been away or rather forced to be away, chatting and keeping a distance of a metre between them. > There are people who have different ways of writing..the stle of Erich Segal,Alistair Maclean and Jeffrey archers different to Irwing Wallace and Sidney sheldon that doesnt mean the charectors in the latters books arre love machines and the previous series have no love life(physical..)Its just the author chooses to ignore it... I Still think one of the greatest depiction of Romance is Ialngo and rohinis meeting near the sarakondrai maram..... > Vikraman: > Personal opinion but he is an excellent example of how one should not write sequels he tarnishes all of kalkis charectors in Nandhipura nayagi.Vanathi is a jeaulos person,Kundavai is a kodungol arakki who seperates the island girl from arulmozhi,even the conception of Rajendra is done as a confusion(well vanathi in sithapiramai etc)
Sir, I have not read this novel. But your comment has forced me to go in search of this book. Just imagine, and Iam assured that you would have read PS first. Had you read the nandhipura nayagi first what would have been your opinion about vanathi and kunthavai? I really like analysing the same situation from a different angle. Please read the book and Ill wait for your opinion ...PAVITHRA what do you say about NN And there is one more novel which was also good, sorry I remember neither the name of the book nor the author, but its was a story between nayakkars and the cholas(after thirumalai nayakkar).That was also really pacy.
There wont be a hot reply because we are just dicussing books
Dear Sathya I do agree with your comments sat > I don't mean its a big crime.. but when I read two or three Sandilyan's in the short span, I felt like skipping many of the pages and skipped by getting bored of the stereotypic comparison.
Azhakiyal description and romantic description are explicit in sandilyan...they are a bit too much If you want to you can sit together as a family and read PS with your mother gran and sister you cant do that with Sandilyans works can you? Sathya we seem to share quite a few common chraectors and books....yavanarani and rohini....bye sri
Akilan :: Sahithya Academi Award Jagasirpiyan : Kudavoilkottam Kovi Manisekaran Naa Parthsarathy Sandilyan ..... Sri Venugopalan : Thiruvarangan Ula & Maduravijayam (Serial in Dinamanikkadhir) (Do you know - he is the same Pushpa Thangadurai who wrote Oodhappu kann simittukirathu & Yen peyar Kamala - Redlight matters !)
- and of course Kalki!
Glad to know that MTVs and VTVs did not eradicate our cultural and historical bondings...By the end of the volleying, let us go for voting... Best wishes, SB
> sat > I am not blaming Sandilyan's all novels(naan > padichcathum konjam thaan :P). In fact the historical > novel which I read very first and which made me to be > interested in historical novels and history (school > history lessons ellam just for exams thaan :P ) is of > Sandilyan only. Yavana Rani!! Many say Kadal PuRa is > his master piece. Ithula naanum Sri side. According to > me too, its Yavana Rani!!
I am also at your side when it comes to YR or KP. But I read YR first. I just experimented by lending the novels to some of my friends and got their opinion. Surprisingly the first novel they read impressed them better. Thats why I enquired Sri whether he read PS or NN first.
> sat > Four chapters of romance is fine... But if the > same is in every fourth chapter ?!!!! (AdikkavE > vanthuduvinga nenaikkiren, joot :) )
Ithu koncham overa theriyalaiya? Adangungappa. > > What is normal romantic description and whats not is > upto the individuals > concerned. But to be honest, I feel people read his > books, enjoy it and > later comment it as too romantic. Its just a taboo > against romance, I feel. > (Ethavathu thakkarathuna koncham pathu seiyungo sir) > > sat > padikkaamalE toooooooo romantic-nu eppadi solla > mudiyum ;):P
Deivame, ungala eppadinga ithu mudiyudhu.Padichittu, enjoy pannittu comment pannarathai patri naan solren. Sari adutha commentku povom.
> sat > In Vengaiyin Mainthan, the emotions of each > persons has been handled so neat.. > Mainly, Akilan had very well described the feeling of > such an emotional and eccentric character Rohanaththu > Ilvarasi. > The way she irritates the Hero, the way she makes him > feet pity for her later, the way she pities and curses > him and > herself and ... Wow !!
Yes rohini character depict nalla panniyirukkar. Irunthalum oru chinna nerudal, sandilyan intha idathil eppadi panniyirupparnu?
Koncham time kudungappa. Naan koncham unga maila padichittu reply pannaren. Innikku koncham work tight.
> Ethavadhu sollanumnu sollrathukkaka 2am ku ukarnthu yarum type panrathu kidayathu especially if you have stayed up till 2 am to finish reading the book.
Puriyalaiye doctor.
> Kundavai though was not a king or queen had a great role in shaping the greatness of chola kingdom.....and greatness is not administrating only ...murathal puliyai adithu thurathinalum greatness than....>
Ayya, ithellam pesalam. Murathal piliyai..... rasathukku venumna use pannalam. Athu kooda karaikka mudiyathu, kashtam. Matrapadi, he he he
And there is one more novel which was also good, sorry I remember neither > the name of the book nor the author, but its was a story between nayakkars > and the cholas(after thirumalai nayakkar).That was also really pacy.
Yaarukkavathu intha novel niyabakam irukka? It has 4 volumes. (Some chitranganiyo something) Therinja sollungappa.
Many have told about many authors and their books. I haven't read most of the books that are being referred over here, but would love to read. I have created a file "Novels" in our database section. Can you all update it with the books you have read and njoyed so that the others also can njoy the same :)
The novel I was referreing to, I dont remember whether its Vijayamah dhevi or moongil kottai or neither. But it was not Ranimuththu kurunovel. When I happened to read some of his Rani Muththu kuru novels like "Manjal Nila" etc, I dint have much expectations, so wasn't disappointed.
Sandilyan's Jala Deepam, I felt the novel itself is almost the replica of Kadal puRa. Santilyan avaroda Kadal Pura-la avarE mayangi antha effect-la atha duplicate panni "Jala Deepam" aakittaronnu thoniththu. Any views on this ??!! (Sathyama, Sathya-va Sani Bagavan Uchchilernthu Ukkirama paarthindu irukkuan ninaikkiRen )
Sandilyan has written one social novel rt. "Senbaga thottam"??. I guess it dint have that reach as his historical novel(if I am not wrong). As Akilan and Kalki shined both in historical and social novels, Santilyan dint shine that much it seems. Nothing offensive meant to Santilyan and his fans. Probably I may be ignorant and I may not be knowing too. (Better to put always this type of disclaimers :P )
Akilan's "Chithirappaavai" and "paavai vilakku", u will be so involved and u won't even feel to get distracted even to wipe your eyes though it is moistened and the vision is blurred, but still u continue reading it!!! When we read his novels, he will make us to be the characters of them!!!
Kalki's social novels, I hadn't read anything yet :(
Imagine...Kadalpura with Vikram as karunakaran,Sneha as Kanchan and Rima sen as Manjalazhagi(konjam chink style venume) and madhavan or surya as anabhayan......
You can even have a sami style dialogue....Naan Pataithalaivan illai....Kollaikaaran....)
Dear All Was just going thro old mails there very good discussions on Sandilyan and Kalki between mails 2700-2800 Reagrds Sri
Dear Vaithi
I am a big Sandilyan fan I admire Sandilyan as much as i admire Kalki but you have to call a spade a spade if not I wont be reading Yavanarani and Kadal pura for the 7th or 8th time. ,
> The Hero is always a Upathalapathi,...has a foreigner as his Adimai..Hippalas(Yavanarani) Moor samath(Vijayamahadevi)...Amir( Kadal Pura)
Comeon Mr.Sridhar, even in PS, the hero is Vanthiya Devan and in SS its Paranjothi. The author sees the situation through their eyes. Thats their style. Now I dont say a hero or main charector has to be the King what I say is the way the storyline goes...the charectors theres always a sanyasi..a kadalkollaikaran...stereotyping is the word.
> One or more Heroines...Explicit romatintic descriptions some times a bit more than the normal...
What is normal romantic description and whats not is upto the individuals concerned. But to be honest, I feel people read his books, enjoy it and later comment it as too romantic. Its just a taboo against romance, I feel. (Ethavathu thakkarathuna koncham pathu seiyungo sir)
Ethavadhu sollanumnu sollrathukkaka 2am ku ukarnthu yarum type panrathu kidayathu especially if you have stayed up till 2 am to finish reading the book. I dont deny that Sandilyan has a style and pace and has produced masterpieces I wont call them epics the only one in my opinion to call for an epic status in thamil is PS Sandilyans work are more masala Infact I have dreamed to see if someone would have the will to make movies or seriala of yavanarani and kadalpura....it will be roaring success> The villains are all vadikattuna porukkis like tamil movies... > Always the villains daughter or valarppupenn falls for the hero... > The hero always fakes he is faltering and hits back when the enemy is not expecting... This is too general a statement. Villain ethirpakkaramathiri hero senja then the villain becomes a hero. what i meant is sterotyping there is no room for suspense like in kadalpura be it kangadevan or balavarman ilayapallavan uses the same tactic acting like a drunkard and kanchana nad manjalalaki do the same...getting angry and irritated and the hero keeps all his aides guessing and treats them like imbeciles......sterotyping..... > the other irritating bit in his style is ending a chapter in a suspense note and starting the next chapter in retrospect and working towards that suspense and by then that chapter will end...
Doctor sir, adutha chapterku ungalai izhukkarathum authoroda poruppu illaya. Adutha chapterku ilucuradu vera ILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCRRRRRRAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTHHHH HHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUU vera Ungal clientsai first sittingleye finalise panni anuppiduvungala? Unfortunately the answer is Yes If that was what they need that was it.
> Sandilyans heros carry the story in their shoulders as opposed to other authors...the heroines are just for beauty and sometimes to fight among themselves.
Can you please tell me more about our south India history where the females played great roles in administering our territories? Kundavai though was not a king or queen had a great role in shaping the greatness of chola kingdom.....and greatness is not administrating only ...murathal puliyai adithu thurathinalum greatness than....what I am saying is SSandilyans Heroines are depected as women of valour but there is always a man guiding them...even alli even yavana rani they are all guided and orchestrad on the contrary Kalkis charectors have amind of their own...like Poongulali or kundavai...nandhini she makes men dance to her tune... > Akilan > Soft romance and a good storyline keeps up the suspense and the same time doesnt bore you.The charectorisation is more like kalki with more charectors sharing the burden of the story like eg Vengaiyin Mainthan had 4 main charectors Ilango.Arulmozhi,Rohini and Rajendra Chola and the times and turmoils are well illustarted.
I really feel personally that a little bit of romance in vengaiyin mainthan would have added flavour to the novel. I really cannot agree that when lovers meet, that too after one has been away or rather forced to be away, chatting and keeping a distance of a metre between them. > There are people who have different ways of writing..the stle of Erich Segal,Alistair Maclean and Jeffrey archers different to Irwing Wallace and Sidney sheldon that doesnt mean the charectors in the latters books arre love machines and the previous series have no love life(physical..)Its just the author chooses to ignore it... I Still think one of the greatest depiction of Romance is Ialngo and rohinis meeting near the sarakondrai maram..... > Vikraman: > Personal opinion but he is an excellent example of how one should not write sequels he tarnishes all of kalkis charectors in Nandhipura nayagi.Vanathi is a jeaulos person,Kundavai is a kodungol arakki who seperates the island girl from arulmozhi,even the conception of Rajendra is done as a confusion(well vanathi in sithapiramai etc)
Sir, I have not read this novel. But your comment has forced me to go in search of this book. Just imagine, and Iam assured that you would have read PS first. Had you read the nandhipura nayagi first what would have been your opinion about vanathi and kunthavai? I really like analysing the same situation from a different angle. Please read the book and Ill wait for your opinion ...PAVITHRA what do you say about NN And there is one more novel which was also good, sorry I remember neither the name of the book nor the author, but its was a story between nayakkars and the cholas(after thirumalai nayakkar).That was also really pacy.
There wont be a hot reply because we are just dicussing books
just finished zamindar magan, a short story by kalki
it describes graphically the bombing of rangoon by the japenese during world war 2 and its evacuation.
in rangoon all prisons are opened, all lunatic asuylums are opened and even in the zoo the carnivores are killed and the rest released. he goes on to describe the across the land escape of people in 4 lorries.
not much of story value but a real historic document from the common mans view point of those turbulent times.
> > Dear Sri, > > I dont know who has written this above chunk about an unknown novel on > Nayakars. > > I think, it could be "Chandra Vadhana" which has 2 big volumes. It
The bombing of Rangoon touched me in a personal way. I have heard the story from my maternal grandfather. He worked for the meteorological office in Rangoon. One day, on his way to work, the air raid sirens blew, and they all ran to get to some trenches. However, before my grandfather could get into one, one of the bombs burst and a fragment pierced the right side of his chest. He tore off his shirt and stuffed it into the wound and somehow, in that bleeding condition ran to the local hospital. The duty doctor ( a lady) had just finished her shift and was leaving for home when my grandfather collapsed at her feet with the words "doctor please save me". His family, consisting of my grandmother, my koLLUppaatti and 5 kids (my mom wasn't born then) of which the youngest was a year and a half had no clue as to what happened to him. Finally, a british lady, very kindly lent my grandmother the use of her vehicle to go search for him and she visited the hospital and eventually located him there. The families were then evacuated by train to Calcutta; only the women and children though. My grandfather, in that enfeebled condition, walked all the way from Rangoon to Calcutta. He mentioned that on the way he saw lots of people collapse through exhaustion and the others just left them and kept walking. To stop moving was to perish, according to him.
There is a nice postscript to this story. When one of my uncles eventually passed out of AIIMS as a doctor, my grandfather tracked down the lady doctor who had saved him, who was then living in Delhi, and took him to her house to tell her that he had vowed to make at least one of his kids into a doctor because of the fact that that lady had saved his life.
I remember even now the place where the shrapnel went through on the right side of his chest and exited from behind his shoulder blade... I used to touch it and ti was always very soft.. like there was just this thin tissue between my finger and the whole.
I have always wanted to write a story about this. Maybe I will :)