who was kalki's favourite charecter?
  • Saathmeeka wrote:
    >
    > Yesterday after finished my PS third volume,going to bed and just i
    was thinking about what kalki do now in heaven (just karpanai).
    > Today his birthday...So definitely anga  periya celebrationa irukum.




    who was kalki's favourite charecter??
    did he show a bias towards anybody??
    did he base anybody on himself or his personal dream of what he
    wanted to be?

    venketesh
  • Dear Venkat, am guessing Nandhini? No clue about the rest, would love to know,
     
    Malathi
  • Never looked in that view that what would be Kalki's favorite. Very interesting initiation by Venkatesh. I guess his favorite is Mandakini. Because, whenever he speaks of her, he says only nice things and with respect. And also he links the incident that gives the title PS to her. Looking forward for more guesses...

    Priya
  • Hi,

    My own vote goes for two people: Vandhiyathevan and Arulmozhi Varman.

    VD - because he signifies Kalki's own spirit; love for traveling and an
    abiding respect for the chola empire. At the same time, VD was a carefree
    young man, personable, aware of his charm and with a certain don't care
    attitude that I think Kalki himself envied (he himself was a little like
    that, if you compare his writings). VD was Kalki himself in a brand new
    young avataar - looks and charm and courageous spirit and talent of getting
    out of a difficult situation. And then he marries the spirit of the Chola
    nadu itself - Kundavai.

    Arulmozhi: I think Kalki's respect for him transcended anything. I don't
    think Kalki could envision himself as a ruler - he saw himself more as an
    official biographer with the enormous good luck of watching him from some
    one else's pov (VD, in this case). But Arulmozhi's vision and thirst for
    more impressed him.

    My two paisas. :)
  • My vote is for Vadiyathevan.
    I read somewhere that Kalki wanted to use Vandiyathevan for indroducing teh
    characters and then sideline him. But he started to develop an admiration
    for his character and carved it beautifully to make him the HERO of the
    great novel and sidelinig the title name bearing Arulmozhi Varman!
  • Hi Priya,


    U r right .. superb initiation by Venkatesh.. I always felt Nandhini would
    have been his favorite character.

    Though it is a negative character he had never let the character down at any
    instant.


    Ennoda favorite character um athaan .. he he... :-)
  • I think Vandiyathevan is the real, de facto hero of PS. I remember Kalki
    uses a phrase' nam kadaiyin nayakan' somewhere to refer ot VD. may be, I
    have to read the novel again to locate the reference.
    Sampath
  • Dear Sampath
    You are absolutely right VD was the Kathanayagan and Kalki uses that phrase a few times
    As for as his favorite I thought it was Sivakami??
    Sri
  • Dear Pavithra,

    That evening I left a little earlier..

    Seetharaman proudly recalled and narrated me later that Dr.
    Kalaikkovan was keeping his head on SR's laps ( Madimeedhu
    thalaivaithirundhar !) and some participants were singing. !

    As you (WE) are aware, Ramchi @ Ramachandran - who founded our
    Group - who brought a book on GNB through Ananda Vikadan in previous
    Book Fair - is ardent music lover .. Recall his visit to
    Thiruvaiyaru from Nandhipuram too. ! They seem to have sung.

    Even this Mallai trip (though I had to miss due to an urgent
    outstation trip) evoked very PLEASANT memories .. when we - Dr.
    Kalikkovan - Dr. Nalini - varalaaru team - yourself, me and others -
    were sitting near the Shore Temple just a day before we launched
    PSVP in Mylapore Sangeetha !

    We heard the distant sound of waves ( Alaiosai !) and started
    talking several things.. on Kalki's crativity blended with History !


    wonderful trips..

    thanks for highlighting...
  • Hi

    kalki wrote the magnum opus over a long period. i am of the view he
    had favourites then and there.
    if we call one as his favourite why do they vanish from the story for
    so many episodes.
    lets remember this was a weekly serial. pungkuzhali did not come for
    the whole first year.
    we need to search for clues in kalki's life and the ps story line for
    all his favourites.
    even a mother has a favourite son though all her children came from
    her blood.
    i think towards the end of the story manimekalai was his favourite.
    he finishes the novel with her death.
    and just before kalki's death- a few hours before he asked his
    daughter anandhi to sing the song pungkuzhali sings. if he wanted to
    hear one of his own creations so late in his living hours pungkuzhali
    must have been his favourite in book 2.
    of course vanthiyathevan was his favourite in book 1.
    of course kalki was so benevolent to the villians too, recognizing
    we end up pitying naganandhi and periya paluvettaraiyar.
    venketesh
  • Ennna Venkat neenga, was waiting eagerly that you had a name, eppadi
    generic-a solli vittuteengale :) Anyways it makes total sense though,
    that he liked different characters based on time and degrees of
    interest.
    Punguzhali and Vadhiyadevan are among the most well developed
    characters in his work, it is not surprising he liked them. Among
    royal characters he developed Narasimha Pallava a lot better than
    RRC. His RRC is somewhat of a flat predictable guy who can do no
    wrong, of course if our mental image is that of the real great RRC
    then it is a different story.Any good novelist develops negative
    characters like anyone else, meaning as human beings with positive
    and negative traits but play out their negative traits more. That is
    the way it is in real life. Valmiki developed his Ravana and Vyasa
    his Duryodhana in exactly same ways. PPazhuvettaraiyar is a great
    warrior, actually you do feel sorry for him when he overhears
    Nandhini and learns of her real intentions. Naganandhi, am not sure
    if one feels sorry for him exactly but he is an odd guy, definitely a
    misfit as a monk and stuck with an overtly dominating brother.

    Any idea of Kalki's preferences among social novels? Thank you.
  • > Punguzhali and Vadhiyadevan are among the most well developed
    > characters in his work, it is not surprising he liked them.

    yes . pungkuzhali is not a charecter of a pen and ink. she is
    wholesome. even mouths kalki's poetry.kalkis symbol of socialism. a
    boat woman on karikalan's throne....
    vanthiyathevan was perhaps a charecter kalki wanted to be. grgarious,
    lively , daring, getting out of odd situations.
    some of kalki himself in vd too. if you read his biography first and
    then PS you will realise so many similar situations.
    vanthiyathevan and manimekalai are almost engaged courtesy maran but
    then its broken off. kalkis first engagement too was broken off under
    the pretext that he had gone to jail once.

    His RRC is somewhat of a flat predictable guy who can do no
    > wrong, of course if our mental image is that of the real great RRC
    > then it is a different story.


    whereas i think ps was kalki himself. ( kalki was called ponnu iyers
    magan, in his vilage. perhaps this contributed to the naming of his
    novel. a tribute to his father's nick name)
    ps ws so pacific. the only time he takes up the sword is to fight
    vanthiyathvan whom he very well knows brought a message for him. the
    saving the bird nest arriving on an elephant is definitely a
    manifestation of his nature.
    kalki went out of the way to emphasise his good guy image. like
    wanting to be arrested by the pazhuvettaraiyars inspite of everybody
    advising him not to do.( kalki did the same thing in the sthyagraha
    movemebnt.)







    venketesh
  • Venkat, are there any clues to who was Kalki's favorite social
    character?

    Malathi
  • HI venkat

    I know yours - from reading KM, Ravidasan steals the show and towers
    among all the others with his steadfast patriotism ( albeit to the
    pandya cause)

    Rakkammal too - so why dont you share with us your experiences while
    writing KM and how you developed the characters further ( Alwarkadian
    put on weight in the 5 years !!)

    vj
  • Hi,

    On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, swaroopini balachandran
  • If you look at
    all
    > the historical novels of tamil(mostly, i mean), you can see one
    common
    > thing, the central character of the book would never be the hero of
    > the book. A commander, or a spy only would be the hero and he would
    be
    > introduced first in the book. Eg (Yavana Rani, Kadal Pura, almost
    all
    > the books by Sandilyan).



    its easy that way. we have a historical charecter with established
    reputations. we just cant digest him running around trees with
    heroines in tow.



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  • It is not uncommon to have "titular hero" and "defacto hero"; "nominal"
    and "real".

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  • ==============Quote===================
    its easy that way. we have a historical charecter with established
    reputations. we just cant digest him running around trees with
    heroines in tow.

    ============Unquote==================

    Idhukku perthaan yEtthi uttuttu, yetti odhaikkardhungaradhu!!!

    The Image Problem????
  • I accept with venkatesh
    Jaihind
  • My vote for Kalki's favorite character goes to VD too. Throughout the novel, I felt that VD is Kalki himself narrating the story of RRC as he goes through the adventures.
     
    Anandhi
     

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