Linguistic Ancestry
  • After hours of breaking my head over deciphering mathematical
    modeling of scientific experiments, I *had* to take the much needed
    break. A quick stroll through the journal section of our library-
    viewing the beauty of the vibrant bloom of spring through the large
    windows- did that. Or I thought it did. The word "ariviyal" printed
    on a journal cover attracted me. Tamil? Here? I started reading the
    journal. And a break did I get.
    It was a recent issue of Science magazine, dedicated to language and
    its evolution. The stories were interesting.
    As many as 144 modern languages have a common root language, which
    linguists call PIE (Proto-Indo-European). One group says that it
    split into component languages 6000 years ago in a place which is now
    Ukraine, while another says it happened 10000 years ago in (modern)
    Central Turkey. But a look into the tree they have drawn, and an
    extended version with the text, showed me where Tamil stood in the
    tree. The traceable origin starts with a superfamily called
    Nostratic. Some well-known modern languages and their roots are
    given here ( > indicates evolution of language):

    Nostratic > Dravidian (Tamil)

    Nostratic > North African and Semitic

    Nostratic > Altaic (Central Asia)

    Nostratic > Uralic (Northeast Europe)

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Anatolian> Heiroglyphic Luvian

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Hellenic> Greek

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Iranian> Kurdish
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Iranian> Old Persian>
    Persian

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>Sindhi
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>Romani
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>Hindi-
    Urdu
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic>
    Sanskrit>Assamese
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>
    Bengali
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>
    Marathi
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>
    Gujarathi
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>
    Punjabi
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Indo Iranian> Indic> Sanskrit>
    Sinhalese

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Italic> Latinofaliscan> Latin>
    Italian
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Italic> Latinofaliscan> Latin>
    Portuguese
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Italic> Latinofaliscan> Latin>
    Spanish
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Italic> Latinofaliscan> Latin> French

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Baltoslavic> Baltic> Latvian
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Baltoslavic> Baltic> Lithuanian

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Baltoslavic> Slavic> East Slavic>
    Russian
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Baltoslavic> Slavic> South Slavic>
    Bulgarian
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Baltoslavic> Slavic> West Slavic>
    Polish
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Baltoslavic> Slavic> West Slavic>
    Czech

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> East Germanic> Gothic
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> North Germanic> Danish
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> North Germanic> Swedish
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> North Germanic> Old Norse>
    Norwegian

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> West Germanic> Old
    English> Middle English> Modern English
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> West Germanic> Old Dutch>
    Dutch
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> West Germanic> Old Dutch>
    Afrikaans
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Germanic> West Germanic> Old High
    German> Middle High German> High German

    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Celtic> Insular> Goidelic> Old
    Irish> Irish Gaelic
    Nostratic > Proto-Indo-European> Celtic> Insular> Goidelic> Old
    Irish> Scottish Gaelic


    The article covers only PIE, the root for English. Not much info on
    dravidian and Chinese languages. Another article, on the future of
    language, showed a projected plot of steep decrease in English and
    Spanish speakers (by 2050) and a steep rise in Arabic, Hindi/Urdu and
    Tamil/Bengali/Malay speakers. Chinese will hold position on top, as
    it does now.
    Oh, speaking of projected plots- I should be getting back to my
    statistics!
    C ya,
    Thilak
  • ''Great minds think alike fools seldom differ'' Are we great minds or fools..I dont know but I was thinking about the same thing today....



    Speaking of Language trees Tamil actually is one of the five classical languages along with Greek,Latin, Chinese , and Persian

    Sanskrit is not one of them

    Sanskrit is the mother of all european languages from German to english

    Tamil is the stem of the Dravidia tree which gave rise to tamil,malayalam,thulu,kannada and Telegu...

    There are ukranian doctors in UK who can recite the atharvana and yajr veda like purananuru and kural... and they say that people speak about these as ancient heros and songs so there may be truth in the fact aryans moved fromAsia minor and moved south pushing the erstwhile dravidians of the indus valley to the southern lands....

    I dont disagree with the fact that english will loose its value with the other languages gaining importance but will tamil figure there ...maybe yes thanks to the tamil aarvam of our eelam freinds



    sri

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