Choolamanipadma Vihara of Nagapattinam
  • Dear all

    For my research paper "New perspectives on Nagappattinam" I did quite
    a thorough investigation on Nagappattinam and choolamanipadma viharam.
    The paper will be published along with other papers on "Early Indian
    Influences in South East Asia" Conference by National University of
    Singapore and National Library board Singapore.

    Relying on Pali buddhist text works and other references I was able to
    establish few things:

    - That Nagappattinam did not come into existence in sangam age. It
    only got developed after the destruction of KavirippomPattinam (called
    Kaviripattana in Milinda Panho a pali buddhist work)

    - That it most probably was developed as a port by Pallavas: A fact
    not yet recorded by any authors

    - That Appar's thevaram is the earliest authentic reference on the
    port city.

    - The earliest of viharas was built by Rajasimha (This was challenged
    in the conference and further inferences possible only after excavation)

    - That Nagappattana did not have many many Buddhist viharas as some
    portray. By all evidences available there was probably one and only
    one major vihara complex.

    - That most likely, the many pallis referred to by inscriptions were
    actually located in the same complex

    - The exact location of this complex and its boundaries as defined by
    Kulothunga's smaller leyden grant are available even today (Credits:
    Dr. Jayakumar)

    - On top of all this, I was able to produce a hitherto unknown
    painting of the entire vihara complex (Not just the popular tower
    drawing drawn by Sir Walter Scott, but the entire complex). I'll wait
    for the book to be published - so that this can be publicized.

    - That the Choolamanipadma Vihara, (which later on took the name
    Rajarajap Perumpalli in smaller leyden grant) & other pallis like
    Rajendrap Perumpalli and Akka salai perumpalli were located possibly
    within or on nearby areas

    What I could not accommodate in the paper is the explanation on 300
    and odd buddhist bronzes that have been discovered so far in Nagai,
    the inscriptions on their pedestal, what they actually mean etc. The
    only scholar who has done work on this bronzes is T.N.Ramachandran.

    It is slightly misleading to say "Christians demolished this
    building". Actually what happened was:

    - That the complex was fully in tact in 18th century as proven by the
    painting

    - The tower and the complex had undergone massive destruction between
    18th and 19th centuries, possibly by Portuguese and dutch who occupied
    the city

    - The tower was in the danger of collapsing

    - Jesuist missionaries who wanted to build a school there wrote to
    british govt, first it was refused and then allowed

    - Sir walter scott was the first britisher to feel extensively for
    this lost pagoda

    - St Joseph's college was built in the compound(This later on moved to
    trichy)

    - Presently the district court is functioning here.
  • Dear all

    i think this is the most extensive work done on choodamani viharam.
    once the paper is published we could with gokul's permission put it
    in the arcieves under topic 'PLACES IN PS- THEIR LATER HISTORY/
    PRESENT STATUS'
    we should also gather info on the kodi light house, temples mentioned
    in ps,natural features like veeraanam and rivers.

    possible topics could be

    MONUMENTS
    LAKES AND RIVERS
    TEMPLES
    PALACES
    BATTLEFIELDS
    PORTS

    this collection would be of great interest and use to researchers.
  • > - That Nagappattinam did not come into existence in sangam age. It
    > only got developed after the destruction of KavirippomPattinam
    (called
    > Kaviripattana in Milinda Panho a pali buddhist work)
    >
    > - That it most probably was developed as a port by Pallavas: A fact
    > not yet recorded by any authors
    >
    > - That Appar's thevaram is the earliest authentic reference on the
    > port city.
    >
    > - The earliest of viharas was built by Rajasimha (This was
    challenged
    > in the conference and further inferences possible only after
    excavation)
    >
    re: thanks for the nice information. pallavas presence in nagapatnam
    is very important in jaffna studies too. it is indeed proposed
    pallavas were controlling jaffna. in thirikonamalai they had built
    the 1000 pillaired hall for the saivte temple. recent excavations
    from thirukonamalai were stopped after the onset of war. pallavas had
    maritime power and were ruling ceylone to some extent.


    > - The tower and the complex had undergone massive destruction
    between
    > 18th and 19th centuries, possibly by Portuguese and dutch who
    occupied
    > the city
    >
    > - The tower was in the danger of collapsing
    >
    > - Jesuist missionaries who wanted to build a school there wrote to
    > british govt, first it was refused and then allowed
    >
    > - Sir walter scott was the first britisher to feel extensively for
    > this lost pagoda
    >
    > - St Joseph's college was built in the compound(This later on moved
    to
    > trichy)
    re: thanks once again for the information. i shall visit the court
    campus for this. hoping to see any artifact relating the viharam.

    gandhi
  • Dear Gokul - I reached ISEAS for accessing the conference archives but was informed that there will be a book published soon, do you know the publication dates.
  • > - Jesuist missionaries who wanted to build a school there wrote to
    > british govt, first it was refused and then allowed
    >
    > - Sir walter scott was the first britisher to feel extensively for
    > this lost pagoda
    >
    > - St Joseph's college was built in the compound(This later on moved to
    > trichy)
    >
    > - Presently the district court is functioning here.


    mr.gokul,
    does the st.joseph's school archives in trichy has any documents
    regarding this. my freinds who studied there were delighted to know
    this fact. usually mission schools have their documents preserved.

    i think nagai was the capital of british tanjore for sometime before
    moving to tranquebar. tranquebar was bought somewhere in 1760 by
    british. they moved to tanjore town only in 1805.

    my estimations may not be accurate. any one sure about the years?

    gandhi
  • > i think nagai was the capital of british tanjore for sometime
    before
    > moving to tranquebar. tranquebar was bought somewhere in 1760 by
    > british. they moved to tanjore town only in 1805.
    >
    > my estimations may not be accurate. any one sure about the years?



    there was nothing like a seperate tanjore capital. tanjore was just
    annexed into madras presidency

    as far as tranqubar was concerned heres its dtails from wiki

    it was founded by the Danish East India Company in 1620 when the main
    fort in Trankebar city, known as Fort Dansborg, was built by a Danish
    captain named Ove Gjedde as the residence of the governor and other
    officials for about 150 years. It is now a museum hosting a
    collection of artefacts from the time of Danish presence in the
    region. A Danish factory (commercial settlement) was opened here as
    early as 1620.

    Tranquebar was controlled by the British in 1801 due to the
    Napoleonic Wars in Europe, and restored to Denmark following the Kiel
    Peace in 1814. It was sold, along with the other Danish settlements
    in India, Serampore and the Nicobars, to Great Britain in 1845.
  • > does the st.joseph's school archives in trichy has any documents
    > regarding this. my freinds who studied there were delighted to know

    Dear Venkat/Gandhi/Sakthi

    Thanks to all of you. I'll let you know once the work is published.
    There has been some delay.

    I'm not sure if St Joseph's college has the papers. All these events
    are already on record and the first paper Sir walter scott wrote on
    the Black pagoda (as it was called in 19th century) exhaustively
    covers the subject.

    One more thing:
    - The official of Sri Vijaya King was PERMANENTLY stationed in Chola
    country. Some sort of an embassy should have functioned. I'm sure a
    similar chola embassy should have existed.

    This official had presented an ardhanari statue in Kayarohanaswami
    temple. This ardhanari exists even today ! Once again, this was bought
    to light during the field work.

    To view this arthanarigal (as mentioned in inscription pl see)
    http://www.varalaaru.com/Default.asp?articleid=629
  • Dear Gokul et all, I studied in SJC and Trichy is not the first place for my college and it was certainly started in a coastal place with very few students (I remember this from one of our annual day literatures) but I am seeking some help from my trichy friends to establish solid proof either from college archives or by some other means.

    Sakthis
  • gandhi
    I've got a line drawing of that lost 'pagoda' somewhere.
    but suppose you have it, too.
    Kathie
  • Dear Gokul S.
    is Kavirippompattinam the same as Kaveripakkam. artifacts
    from there in Govt. Museum: all those great (Pallava, I think)
    stone murthis?
    Kakthie
  • Regarding about the Ports of Tamilnadu
    Poompuhar ( PUHAR = ethirigal puga mudiyatha oor) was the ancient one.n Vanchi the 2nd i guess.
  • Hi Kathie,
     Can you post a scan of the same, if you can find it?

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