silpy who built the Big temple at Tanjore.
  • The Name of the Chief silpy who built the Big Temple is

    Chavara Sharma.

    This I found in a manuscript at Oriental Manuscript Library, Chennai.



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  • Can you give the name of the manuscript / author ? It will help many researchers here...
  • This is an M.Phil thesis and I myself personnaly co guided and helped the man who did with Annamalai University.

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  • please refer Page No 39 Manuscript No D 2994


    Dr.S.Soundara Pandian
    cholamandala varalarugal

    Book available at O.M.L.
  • Dear Thiru Rama Chandran,

    The Manuscript mentioned by you is titled "Cholamandala Varalarugal"
    by Dr Soundara Pandian. It is clear this is a "secondary source" of
    information. If you had already read this Manuscript could you very
    kindly let me know from which "original source" Dr Soundara Pandian
    got this information on the name of the Silpi as Chavara Sharma who
    built the Thanjavur "Rajarajeswarem Temple" (Birahatheeswarer temple).

    As far as I am aware the the Chief Silpi (Perum Kal Thatchchan} who
    was intrumental in constructing this great temple was "Virachola
    Kunjajara Mallan alias Rajaraja Perum Thatchchan", assisted by the two
    Associate Silpis namely "Niththavinotha Perum Thatchchan" and
    "Kandaraathiththa Perum Thatchchan".

    Awaiting you kind advices on same.

    Virarajendra
  • It was copied from the manuscript Number also mentioned as foot note in the same book.
  • Dear Thiru Ramachandran,

    The Manuscript itself is written by Dr Soundara Pandian - which is not
    an original manuscript but a secondry manuscript. But from what you
    have mentioned below it appears that the Dr "has not mentioned the
    original source" of this information in his manuscript, but "possibly
    he has been mis-informed by someone".

    If possible, and if you have access to this manuscript, I very kindly
    request you to provide the "exact words" of the Dr as given in his
    book pertaining to this information on "Chavara Sarma".

    Thanking you

    Awaiting your kind advices.

    Virarajendra
  • Go to OML with that book Chola mandala Varalaru and show that to to the Tamil Pandit Mr.Thiyaga Rajan.

    If the manuscript is in good condition he will show you if torn I am sorry.

    M.Soundara pandian is not a fake and there is no need to write a fake as you stated.

    The entire dept will shout if you use the word that the manuscript itself is written by Soundara Pandian.

    I am sorry that you used that word that Mr.Soundara Padian himself had written that.
  • Dear Thiru Rama Chandran,

    I think you have completely mis-understood what I have interpreted.
    Say if - I have written a book on the "History of Cholas" myself using
    - say some informations from South Indian Inscriptions and also say
    with some informations from Kalingaththuparani, I would call my work
    as secondary manuscript or secondary work. I will consider the South
    Indian Inscriptions volumes and Kalingaththuparani as original
    manuscripts or sources. I would refer to my manuscript as a secondary
    work - as it has been written based on the informations from the other
    original - works and sources.

    In the same line of thinking, I asked you to kindly let me have the
    details of Dr Soundara Pandian's "original source" of this information
    on "Chavara Sharma" mentioned by him in his work titled "Cholamandala
    Varalaarukal".

    Or is it the "Cholamandala Varalaarukal", you are referring to is a
    historical or literary work composed "by some other author" of the
    earlier days, but edited, explanatory notes given, and publised by Dr
    Soudara Pandian ???

    Please note we are "not referring" to any one as "fake" as your have
    "wrongly stated". Your statement that "the entire OML department will
    shout" is only exibiting the "immaturity of the minds" of the people
    who want to shout, in the process of my quest for the truth.

    However I thank you very much, for whatever informations you have
    provided to me upto now on same.

    Virarajendra
  • hi sirs,

    The claim on the silpi goes directly against what is the widely
    accepted claim - which is based on inscriptions standing till date in
    the big temple itself. I have talked to an expert sculptor who is from
    the viswakarma clan and he too confirms to this view. So when you talk
    of manuscripts which give a diff view, its only natural that people
    ask for more details. We would all like to learn new things and any
    such claim must be supported by the full information and am sure open
    to debate.

    Take the debates still on as to the authorship of the mallai
    monuments. we would love to have an healthy discussion and you can
    rest assured that its the theory under debate and not the credentials
    of the people involved.
  • Dear Thiru Vijay Kumar,

    I am pleased to note, that you have understood the issue very correctly.

    Thanking you

    Virarajendra
  • My thoughts on these discussions.

    Names of two sculptors are mentioned in Thalicheri Kalvettukkal.
    Remember that this inscription only talks about the dancers employed -
    along with musicians etc and is necessarily not one which talks about
    the sculptors who built the project. So the references to two names
    are circumstantial and does not necessarily accord any status.

    The title "Perunthachan" was accorded to all major sculptors. Earliest
    reference is "Erukkottur Perunthachan" in pillaiyarpatti. Till
    recently the usage of the word perunthachan was very much in vogue in
    kerala. There was even a malayalam historical movie titled
    perunthachan (nice one).

    Rajaraja accorded his name as title to many. You find Rajarajap
    perunthachan and Rajarajap Perunavidhan. Rajarajp pallavarayar.

    Hence Kunjara malla (which was the title of parantaka) who bore the
    title Rajaraja perunthacha was one of the many sculptors who was
    involved in the project. He was not the chief architect - atleast
    there is no evidence.

    Now on the oriental manuscript library. There are many 17-18th century
    manuscripts which talk about chola history. Some of them were
    collected by Lt col Colin Mackenzie. Esp the Kongu desa rajakkal &
    "Chola mandala charitira surukkam" - full of true and imaginary
    information - go at length to describe how "Karikaala" (!) built the
    brihadeshwara temple. It also describes a certain "sharma" and his
    "son" who were involved in the construction.

    It is almost impossible to trust these sources as primary info.
    Historians are using it only as secondary or tertiary source of info.
  • Following my earlier thoughts I found a reference to another silpi in
    Thanjavore inscriptions : Kandaraditta-Perundachchan is meitoned in
    No. 66, paragraph 505 of SII Vol 2.
  • Dear Gokul,

    Yes you are very very correct.

    I have extracted from my article the connected reference titled
    "Rajarajaeswarem & Gangaikonda Cholaeswarem - Siva Temples" in
    WWW.mayyam.com/hub on same which is as follows:

    ".....The chief among the Silpis (Perum Thatchchar) who were
    instrumental in the construction of this great temple was Viracholan
    Kunjajara Mallan alias Rajaraja Perum Thatchchan - with - his two
    assistants, and the expertise of two other Silpis namely the Kunavan
    Mathuranthahan alias Niththavinotha Perum Thatchchan and Ilaththi
    Sadaiyan alias Kandaraathiththa Perum Thatchchan....."

    The question may be asked as to how Viracholan Kunjajara Mallan alias
    Rajaraja Perum Thatchchan was considered the chief among them.

    This could be seen from the Payment made to him and the other two
    associate Silpis. Viracholan Kunjajara Mallan alias Rajaraja Perum
    Thatchchan was paid 1 1/2 Pangu, while the other two were paid 3/4
    Pangu as seen from the actual text of the inscription which is as
    follows.

    "....Thachchaachaaryam ontrukku pangu ontraraiyum, Aal irandukkup
    pangu ontraraiyum, aaha Viracholan Kunjaramallan aana Rajarajap
    perumthatchchanukku pangu moondrum,

    Thatchchu ondrukku Kunavan Mathuranthahan aana Niththavinotha
    perumthatchchanukku pangu mukkaalum,

    Metpadi ontrukku Ilaththi Sadaiyan aana Kandaraathiththa
    perumthatchchanukku pangu mukkaalum....."

    - Inscription on the outside of the northern Thiruchchuttru wall -
    - South Indian Inscriptions - Vol 2, Ins No 66 -

    Rajarajap perumthatchchan was paid ontrarai pangu, while his associate
    Silpis were paid only half of it - i.e. each mukkaal pangu.

    Hence we can safely assume that Viracholan Kunjajara Mallan alias
    Rajaraja Perum Thatchchan was the chief Silpi instrumental in the
    construction of the great - Thanjavur Rajarajaeswarem temple.

    Anbudan - Virarajendra
  • Damn interesting... thank you very much dear VR.
    Will take it up for detailed study.
    thanks and regards/ sps
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