And references from sangam and post sangam literature. Common sense solution is - some form of protection was adopted from the early days of war and shield is the basic protection. It is difficult to think of anything simpler. Sampath
> > > > Did Tamil kings/soldiers use shield ? I don't remember seeing any > > pictures with shield and sword. Probably this was used only later ? > > > > I have seen the movies, pictures and references to shields in > Romans kings. > > > > Can somebody please throw light on when was first time it is used in > > the world/India ? > > > > Regards > > Thiru > > >
HI thiru
when you mean tamil kings, is too generic and a big time span.of course we used diff kind of weapons. which period are you referrring to
> > HI thiru > > when you mean tamil kings, is too generic and a big time span.of > course we used diff kind of weapons. which period are you referrring to > > rgds > vj >
On or before medieval cholas. Preferably our RRC times.
> > > > On or before medieval cholas. Preferably our RRC times. > dear thiru
one of my very first works was on a thread called is the koil ther a siege machine or a war tower. while i was reading on that i came across some very interesting references
you can read lot of this...incl the paavai vilakku, flame throwing contracptions etc which were roman contirbutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foreign Influence in Ancient India R. A. JAIBAZBHOY
Finally, from the early literature of the Tamils we obtain a vivid picture of the position and activities of the foreign traders. A Tamil poet relates that the large beautiful ships of the Yavanas bring gold to the thriving town of Muchiri (Muziris) and return laden with pepper. Poems** describe the abodes of the prosperous Yavanas at the mouth of the Kaveri river, of Yavana mercenaries who guarded the gates of the fort of Madura and of the Tamil king's tent on a battlefield, and of Yavana craftsmen who made siege engines. Among the skilled artisans who built the palace of the Cola king in the city of Kavirippattinam (which included craftsmen from Magadha, mechanics from Maradam and smiths from Avanti) there were carpenters from Yavana. Another poem speaks of "statues of metal made by the Yavanas" holding lamps which lit a royal palace (Le., dipalaksmis of a western type). With this notice of Yavana merchants engaged in building siege engines and palaces and some of their furnishings for Tamil kings we will turn now to the last aspect of this chapter.
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Incidentally the entire book (KAN's southindian influences in the far east is available for download in this site)
> > HI thiru > > when you mean tamil kings, is too generic and a big time span.of > course we used diff kind of weapons. which period are you referrring to >
Hi Vijay
when you talk about period do you sincerely feel there was any difference or development from mastering of steel forging to atha advent of the gun.
lets narrow it from kalabrar demise to advent of vijaynagar.
i have been watching a series on warfare in ancient civilisations on history channel
the chinese have such a simple repeater bow. shot some 6 arrows a minute on a lever system.faboulous creativity
sometimes i used to wonder if one man with a machine gun in the 10th century could have conquered the entire word?
> > sometimes i used to wonder if one man with a machine gun in the 10th > century could have conquered the entire word? > > venketesh >
Like in movie "Rambo" ?
I doubt, if you have seen the Beach battle in Saving Private Ryan, it is obvious that the first battalion is going to die, still they kept coming and finally able to capture. Hope this is a right example.
it > is obvious that the first battalion is going to die, still they kept > coming and finally able to capture. Hope this is a right example.
remarkable aint it?so many beleived in a cause. right or wrong the beleif for which they paid with their lives is remarkable. but then there was a beleif in the army that whenever a bullet was made a name of the person it was going to kill was on it.
some body said " i am really afraid of the bullet which says 'to whosoever it concerns'
- > remarkable aint it?so many beleived in a cause. right or wrong the > beleif for which they paid with their lives is remarkable. > but then there was a beleif in the army that whenever a bullet was > made a name of the person it was going to kill was on it. > > some body said " i am really afraid of the bullet which says 'to > whosoever it concerns' > > venketesh > =============================>
LIKE WE SAY. YOUR NAME SHOULD BE WRITTEN IN THE BRICK ..TO OCCUPY THE HOME ! Likhnewale.. !
> > i have been watching a series on warfare in ancient civilisations on > history channel > > the chinese have such a simple repeater bow. shot some 6 arrows a > minute on a lever system.faboulous creativity > > sometimes i used to wonder if one man with a machine gun in the 10th > century could have conquered the entire word? > > venketesh > Hi venktesh
Halebid temple has some interesting battle scene sculptures. one is very unique, i have added in our photos section ( its a normal bow but you can count more than 6 arrows - maybe the sculpture wanted to depict rapid release but then the positioning of the arrows is not clear)