In the same line of thoughts...but with a subtle divergence,
is the Satyavrata manu ... king of Dravidians.. Found out the same has reference to Srimadh Bagavatham and similar information in wiki.. and many other books too.. and here is the link to the same… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsya This was a news to me.. as it throws a very different light on the aryan and dravidian divide.. Or for that matter was there one??
Hope, the scholars in this form would be able to assist..!! Nithya
The very name "Ariya padai kadantha Pandian Nedunceliyan" signifies that some terminology was prevalent as early as the cankam era.
Here, I dont think the term "Ariya" means "the learnt" - there is no application for an army that learnt. If they learnt properly, they would have given away killing.
May be it meant Indians from the north or Indians speaking northern languages. But certainly not in present day meanings and more certainly it didnt divide the people.
Ravana appears to be (Sama ) Vedic .. from Southern part of Tamilnadu (ancient ?).
Rama appears to be from Northern part of India. Practised KSHATRIYA Dharma .. his Kulaguru Vasishta.
The story line is viewed to be 5000 - 6000 yr old..
How does Aryan - Dravidian subject erept into this episode ?
Probably Viajy may find time to post Bibliography (list books - periodicals ) on this subject too .. more illumination possible from Secondary / primary sources ...
And normally this discussion led to certain avoidable exchanges in the past and turn caste-based ...
And let us remember ourselves that even NON-MEMBERs can have access to our mails and we have the responsbility of maintaining decorum.
> > Probably Vijay may find time to post Bibliography (list books - > periodicals ) on this subject too .. more illumination possible from > Secondary / primary sources ...
May be, though Aryan literally means 'learned' or wise men...it was also used to denote the language sanskrit. Arya padai may mean the army of the sanskrit kings...you are right in saying so VK..
Though the title makes people think it might be about race , my whole essay is to point out how Kamban has used certain happenings in history to characterize his hero and Villan and how it has got nothing to do with the race. Kamban has modelled his Ravana as typical king of the sangam era and follower of maram and Rama as the god on whom whole of dharma depends on. The cultural conflict is between the heroic unstable Sangam kings and religious, empire building Pallavas(based on which Kamban has modeled Ravana and Rama).
The essay is based on works of George L Hart and Kamil Zvelebil. I would be happy to quote reference for any line in the essay.
If you read the essay and still feel a need to change the title probably I would change it 'Ravana a Dravidian King?' .....
The essay doesn't have any thing particular to Aryan/ Dravidian divide or conflict except to clarify there is no such thing.