Tamil Measurements
  • Dear All,

    I have been collecting the measurements used in our past times...I feel its
    not complete! However since there are some discussions about kAdhadhooram I
    am posting this mail... kindly give me your invaluable comments so that I
    can complete it...

    *Neettal alavai*



    kAdam - Distance of about 10 Miles



    Osanai – 4 kAda dhOram



    Kal – a mile (1609 meter)



    muzham - As the measure from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger (2
    sAn)



    sAn - the distance from the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger




    OttaisAn – the space from the point of the thumb to that of the forefinger
    when extended



    sAtkOl – measuring rod of a length of a sAn



    anguttam – measure of thumb



    adi – 12 anguttam (inches)



    kasAkiram – mayir nuniyalavu ( a linear measure equal to hair's breadth)



    AL (aal) – man as a standard height



    sEn – height / length



    kOpiduthOram (kOsu) – hailing distance (short distance)



    uvai – yonder at a distance nor far off



    sEtchi (sEi) - remoteness



    *Niraththal alavai*



    AzhAkku – 1/8 of a padi (grain measure)



    sevidu - 1/5 of AzhAkku (consisting of 360 grains of paddy)



    sEr – 5 AzhAkku ( roughly 320 grams)



    veesai – 1400 grams approx



    idA – mugaththal alavai / palm leaf bucket for irrigation



    uZhakku – ¼ of a padi (grain measure)



    chinna padi – ½ padi



    pakkA – 2 padi (2 liters approx.)



    vatti – 1 padi



    vallam – 2 or 4 padi



    ettunai – size of a single sesame grain



    kahsu – ¼ palam



    palam – 35 grams approx.



    rAththal – 13 palam



    kOttai – 21 marakkAl (grain measure)



    kalam – 12 marakkAl (grain measure)



    thooni – 8 marakkAl



    parai – 6 marakkAl



    kalarai – 11/2 kalam (grain measure)



    kuruni ( marakkAl) (pirappu) (ambanam)– 8 padi (grain measure)





    *Parappalavu*



    kundu – depth / a land measure = 1089 sq.ft.



    kuzhi - a land measure = 144sq.ft.



    mA – 100 kuzhi



    vEli – 20 ma (6.67 Acres)





    *kAla alavu*



    karpam – a day of brahma comprising 4,320,000,000 years



    pAthumakarpam – first portion of brahma's life span



    vuri – arai nAzhi (nAzhigai)



    kannal (nAzhigai) – 24 minutes



    kanam – nodipozhuthu, wink of the eye, shortest duration of time as measured
    by a snap with fingers.



    padalam – duration of an action, process of an event or occurrence



    pAdam – ¼ of the duration of the influence of a nakshathra



    yAmam – 3 hours (7 ½ nAzhigai)



    mandalam – period of 40 / 41 / 45 days



    mAmAngam – period of 12 years
  • Thanks Satheesh, learned lot of details. Now, if I read PS or any
    other history novel, will know what they are talking about with
    respect to distance, etc., Please send us the references if you have.

    I added as an article here

    http://www.ponniyinselvan.in/articles-f6/tamil-measurements-t26435.html

    Would you mind doing tamil translation using google Transliteration
    http://www.google.com/transliterate/indic/Tamil
  • > I have been collecting the measurements used in our past times...I feel

    Superb - just superb. You may also want to look at the various
    measures of length engraved in temple walls. Begin with Big temple at
    thanjavore
  • Tamil Transliteration is done with help from Satheesh Kumar here

    http://www.ponniyinselvan.in/articles-f6/tamil-measurements-t26435.html#p107600

    There few more available here as well

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_units_of_measurement
  • I just did a search on "Tamil Measurements" and found the wikipedia,
    no idea about authenticity. But our Satheesh Kumar did some research
    and collected those, so that's why I haven't used any of the wikipedia
    data, but posted it so that we can add or modify if there is any
    correction.


    On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Sivapathasekaran
  • Dear Shri. Satheesh Kumar,

    Both these data ::

    1 jaan = 23.3333 and

    6000 paagham = 1 Kaadham

    both are in the SAME WIKIPEDIA table for linear measurements.

    Because 1.6 Km is 1 mile... which is less than Kaadham.

    As per wiki, 1.16 Km is one Kadham.. which is misguiding.

    This is an arithmatical data to show a miscalculation.

    similar observations are over ruled in other data - including the
    one related to History..

    but this is like pointing out a black mole in a White wall.

    Nothing against you at all.

    anbudan / sps
  • --- In ponniyinselvan@yahoogroups.com, svprsk@... wrote:
    > now and requesting to consider me for any discussions or meetings.
    I can
    > be a squirrel for PS by recording (video) the proceedings for our
    > archives.
    ===============

    VERY NICE SATHEESH.
    We will work together in this direction.

    "sir' cn be dispensed with, pls.
    ============
    > I will be available in chennai from Monday to Friday, in Thanjavur
    on Saturday and Sunday!

    Yeah.. Now I remember your postings on Thanjavur / VIPs.

    nice.

    anbudan /

    sps
  • "En jan udambukku sirase pradahanam!" If we can find a standard udambu
    we can calculate the 'jan'!

    We must try to consolidate all the proverbs citing measurements to get
    some sort of consensus. But, is it necessary, I mean, consensus and
    uniformity?

    Sampath
  • wow, interesting...
  • Satheesh, most interesting, i know the classic 'muzham' is palm to elbow, as often used by florists, how do you measure jaan in terms of your hand - meaning is it double of muzham, or something else?
     
    Am reminded of the other saying too 'thalaikku mela vellam ponaal jaan enna muzham enna...'
    Thanks!!
     
    Malathi
  • Dear Sampath,

    Both these data ::

    1 jaan = 23.3333 and

    6000 paagham = 1 Kaadham

    are in the SAME WIKIPEDIA table for linear measurements cited in
    the original mail.

    30 CM is 12 inches. (foot scale)

    23.333 CM = about 9 inches.

    ENJAAN is say about 72 inches - SIX FOOTER (appx) !

    anbudan / sps
  • Wow, so how do you measure like that i mean without any tape or anything, do we make a thread go around all fingers?
  • I am going to put this polemic topic to rest refer my first mail in which I have said 6000 pagams blah blah etc
    That is 11.167 not 1.167 as incorrectly mentioned for kadham .
    Regret inconvenience and was pleasantly surprised that just a decinmal place can drag things for ever btw, any way of dealing decimals in tamil(not fractions but decimal)
    Venkat
  • > Reminds me of the LONGEST word : S MILE S ..
    > One mile between the beginning and end of the word!
    >

    That was a good one.

    Thanks SPS
  • Dear SPS, I am not running away, just awestruck by how much is there to learn and how wise our ancestors were. Thank you.
  • >
    > THERE WAS " ULAGALANTHAN KOLE " !
    >
    > RRC conducted a major suvey of his ENTIRE EMPIRE to avoid land tax
    > evation. Excempted lands of Public use like Lake, tanks, temples,
    > vaaykkal, burial / cremation grounds, Grampanchayat place etc.,
    etc.
    >
    > Lands classified : Cultivable - Noncultiavable - House sites etc.
    >
    > House sites attracted such tax.
    >

    hi sps sir

    Looks like the pallavas were even more meticulous ( or rather
    merciless) in their tax norms....after reading this am sure we
    should not complain....barber's tax, washerman's tax....wow read on..


    http://tamilartsacademy.com/books/coins/chapter04.xml


    The early copper plate charters of the Pallavas do not mention any
    type of currency, though they, refer in general terms to exemptions
    of various kinds of taxes. However in the seventh century, the word
    Kanam is used in connection with taxation. Paramesvaravarman I's
    Kuram grant refers to the tax, Kattikkanam.

    A land was bought and endowed to a temple and the purchase price is
    mentioned as Vilai Kanam. That the kanam was the main currency is
    reflected in a number of taxes mentioned in inscriptions of the
    eight century A.D.
    The following are the taxes thus mentioned.
    1 Tattak kanam
    2 Brahmanarasak kanam
    3 Sengodik kanam
    4 Kallanak kanam
    5 Kannituk kanam
    6 Kadirk kanam
    7 Visak kanam
    8 Kusak kanam
    9 Parutik kanam
    10 Kuvalaik kanam
    11 Ettak kanam
    12 Manjadik kanam
    13 Viratukkak kanam
    14Urik-kanam
    15 Parik-kanam
    16 Kalkottuk kanam
    17 Attuk-kanam
    18 Vannarak-kanam
    19 Thirumukhak-kanam
    20 Paraik-kanam

    Such a large number of taxes levied in terms of Kanams and the
    absense of the word kasu as a tax in any of the Pallava charters
    shows the coinage went in the name of Kanam by and large. While
    other taxes are named in kinds the word Pon occurs in three
    instances as Tengam Pon, Seyivu Ponga Sirntha Pon (Pullur) and
    Puravu Pon (Velur palayam)
    The taxes mentioned above have been discussed by Dr. Minakshi and
    others. Some of hem are clearly professional taxes, the Kusak kanam
    (Potter's tax), Navitak kanam (Barber's tax) Vannara Kanam
    (washerman's tax). Dr. Minakshi considers tattik kanam (called
    Tattak-kanam in the Royakkottai plate) and Tattar pattam in Chola
    epigraph a tax on goldsmith. Kallanak kanam was a tax on marriages.
    The term Kannittuk kanam is not very clear; Kadik kanam was a tax on
    grains Kuvalaik kanam on Kuvalai flowers. It may be necessary to
    deal in a somewhat separate manner with other Kanams dealth with in
    these records.

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