Avudaiyar of Big temple - Beach meet 02-09
  • Hi everybody

    it was indeed an emotional evening for me on 2/9. my first face to
    face meet of the grp members Oeceprt SPS, Gokul and Chandra).

    my knoweledge and experience abour every thing is miniscule when
    compared to the thoughts shared by the members of this gruop. i
    decided to read more than write.

    as Kamal pointed out, i am awaiting dr.kkn's next article on this
    perhaps needless doubt about the avudaiyar. it is like the shadow of
    the shikhara/stupi or the entire superstructure of the vimana - never
    falls on the ground. i hope dr.kkn will come out all he saw within
    the garbhagriha of BT.

    hope everybody applies their commom sense. but thye best common sense
    is to put an idea as a doubt and wait for the reaction.

    sriraman ps
  • amazing

    he must realy be a chiththar as you say.
    how did we know we were discussing this.
    perhaps he also is a member in disuise in the group
  • sps sir, fine and thanks for the coment by balakumaran.

    acciodentally today i came across a photograph published by Shri AK
    Seshadri on the temple,. He was one of our dedicated conservation man
    who not only conserved the monument but also wrote about them like any
    other scholar.

    the photgraph shows the linga without the usual vastra. i could see many
    joints in the mouldings from the bottom. but the uppermost course seems
    to one piece.

    so i take back my observation. let me do so with due apologies to all
    members.

    considering that the uppermoat member is of one piece, i still feel the
    linga was erected first. let me think over from this hypothesis. permit
    me to come with conclusions at a later date, so that they can be
    discussed.

    still i feel, considering the gigantic nature and logistics involved in
    constructing the temple, the institution behind it, and the great
    personality of RRC, this question is very insignificant as much as the
    shadow and waht agama he has followed.

    back to gokul. his digital recreation of one of the panel is a
    painstaking work. he must spent his precious time on it as we all know
    he is a multifaceted person.

    but, dear gokul, i still feel this work must be carried on by another
    person who has commensurate experience in photography, painting and
    photoshop softwares. busy mken like you and me must give them necessary
    inputs and be a good critiques.

    when we met gokul at asi office after his demostration at BT (which i
    missed with fact being few hours before that i vacated the room where he
    gave the demostration), he was he apprised me about the technique of
    photographing the murals. by that time we had already completed the
    documentation of all the panesl, with sundarar giving lots of problems
    as we had work on it four time !!!.

    in afct, sri Koviloor Nachiappan Swamikal of Kalakshetra Publication did
    a very similar work way back in 1950 under the orders of asi. his
    recently publsihed book, the reproduction quality was not good. but he
    deserves the maximum as he did the job at time when photography was at a
    nascent satge and that too colour photography. i may dwell upon it later
    in an article in varalaru,com, as requested by gokul.

    perhaps we felt so happy when reproduced them to a 9feet by 6 feet panel
    and kept for public view. i felt very sad when gokul and his friends
    missed visiting our interpretation center when he visited BT lat month.
    i was expecting eagerly his views on our work.

    i was told that VC balakumaran was so pleased at our work. hope he will
    again communicate his feelings.

    be that as it may be. i may visit bt on this weekend. any takers? call
    9444280408 and get confirmation.

    sriraman.p.s.
  • sps sir and others. i am reposting this message.

    today i saw a photo of the linga in abook publsihed by ak seshadri of
    asi. the linga was without the usual vastra. i could notice several
    masonry joints. perhaps i am wrong.

    with due apologies to all members, i correct myself. still many
    questions remain. my observation is that the topmost member is of
    single stone. i am to some simple calculation AS TO WHETHER THE TEMPLE
    WAS WITHOUT THE LINGA and the linga was erected etc.,. please permit me
    some time.

    as to gokuls efforts, i am really happy that he took a step further from
    where we had left, where the time had left the murals. it is painstaking
    job. indeed a great person as he could find time, and so much of it, in
    spite of his busy schedule as an software architect and as an architect
    behing the a wonderful e-zine called varalaaru.com.

    but still i personally feel that this effort of digital recreation shoul
    best be left a person who is fully qualified and skilled and who can
    best devout fully himself to that task. he must be a painter,
    photographer, system skilled person. best we finance the effort and
    provide inputs as a critic. yhis is not the job for gokuls and
    sriramans.

    fine, when gokul described his method in the asi office a day or two
    after his demo, we informed him that we had translated his theory into a
    reality.

    THE FORMOST PERSON TO MAKE IT HAPPEN WAS ONE KOVILOOR NACHIAPPAN, AS HE
    DID IT A TIME WHEN THE COLOUR PHOTOGRAPHY WAS A NASCENT ONE.

    i was bit sad when gokul informed that he and his fellow visitors missed
    to visit the Porulvilakkaham at BT. hope he will do so soon.

    we heard that EC balakumaran was happy to see our work. hope he will
    come out gain in public to say the same direectly to us. it will enthuse
    us to go a step further.

    sriraman.p.s.
  • Dear Sriraman

    Thanks for all inputs.

    * Reg Aavudaiyar: According to Dr.Kudavoil, the aavudaiyar itself
    consists of 2 parts - upper and lower portions. The bottom portion is
    made of 9 stones (atha padhmam area) while the top portion - which
    consists of the waterway(Oorthuva padhmam) - is a single block. The
    bottom 9 stones are not of even size. One big one small next big next
    one small and so on. All big stones are of equal size and all small
    stones are of equal size.

    We all will wait till you confirm the your observations.

    * Interpretation centre: I really apologise for missing this. When you
    showed me what is in there by powerpoint I realised I have missed your
    team's excellent work. I'll certainly visit this first next time.

    * Reconstruction: It was an extremely demanding job for me to spend
    time on this and though I would have spent atleast 100 hours - I
    repeat, atleast 100 hours - it certainly demands more. You are right
    that this hands on work is best left with craftsman like Thiyagarajan.
    I spent this time to prove that it is possible to reconstruct -
    ressurect - atleast to some extent. But we have a long mile to go.

    Enjoying your participation in the group. Really missed your beach talk

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